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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 19:14:28 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: :hacker_f::hacker_s::hacker_e: :hackerman::elliot::alexjones::terryapproves::7eleven::nixonsmug::feynmansmug2: - kaia, ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: and ロミンちゃん like this.
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 19:36:47 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: The picture where I'm pointing, that's where everyone's posts live.
Then the innards. There are two tiers, CPUs 3 and 4 as well as RAM banks C and D are on the top tier, which plugs into the motherboard and is held in place by a latch. The bottom tier is where the notorious "Bank 18" lives, which is the location of B7. B11 is sitting useless, because the RAM is installed in pairs.
Hilariously, I left the ethernet cables plugged in and yanked the heads off them when I pulled the machine out of the rack. I also picked up the wrong USB serial cable and thus could not plug the DevTerm into the server and had to wheel in a crash cart.
Once the box was back up, I could ssh in and start everything back up. They have guest wifi at the datacenter, so it was possible to shut it down without tethering, but to bring everything back up, I did that on the way home.
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 19:41:33 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: Here's the troublesome stick, the source of all of the problems. What should I do with it?
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ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 19:49:32 JST ロミンちゃん @p
>product of puerto rico
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laurel (laurel@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 19:53:25 JST laurel @p
Stick it in another machine closeby for shits and giggles.
Also, it seems that it was the (((Puerto Ricans))) all along.pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: likes this. -
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 19:54:53 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: @laurel
> Stick it in another machine closeby for shits and giggles.
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nukie (nukie@boymoder.biz)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 19:54:57 JST nukie @p pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: and like this. -
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 19:55:18 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: @nukie Sharp edges, plus my ass is beautiful. and ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: like this. -
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 19:55:44 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: @romin :hst: -
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sysrq (sysrq@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 19:55:47 JST sysrq @p
Microwave it, grind it up, snort it.pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: likes this. -
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 19:59:38 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: @sysrq
:dracula: We out here snorting that refurbished server defective RAM.
:dracula: We're smoking that decapped ethernet cable zaza.
:dracula: This shit ain't nothing to me, man.
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Xyfdi Horton (xyfdi@gameliberty.club)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 20:02:00 JST Xyfdi Horton @p
Do an FSE version of: Will it blend!pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: likes this. -
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 20:02:50 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: @xyfdi That would probably require a more serious blender than the one I own. -
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✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 20:03:00 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: @p Torch it, they must not know whats on it..... pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: likes this. -
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นาตาลี :bellsystem: (natalie@nya.social)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 20:03:09 JST นาตาลี :bellsystem: pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: likes this. -
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 20:10:22 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: @natalie Ha, I like this idea.
Everyone is suggesting it be destroyed, but this is probably the most special stick of RAM I have ever possessed. I mean, all these troubles, for years. Years! This little DIMM. -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 20:12:26 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? Pass it forward. Ebay is your friend. pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: likes this. -
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 20:12:40 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: @dcc :randysavage:
Have some industrial magnets around but I'm pretty sure the contents are gone.✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 20:15:13 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: > Once the box was back up, I could ssh in and start everything back up.
This part was actually important: I wanted to be certain I had the right stick, so I rebooted and checked lshw and verified that Bank 18 was vacant. -
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 20:16:00 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: @Humpleupagus @natalie "CURSED RAM: 8GB." -
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Xyfdi Horton (xyfdi@gameliberty.club)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 20:29:41 JST Xyfdi Horton @p And you'll end up sacrificing the one you already own.
Burning it may fuck up your lungs. Throwing it in traffic will fucking the environment, although in LA it may not leave much of an impact, but you don't want to incriminate yourself.
Just keep it and make art out of it one day.
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 20:34:46 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: @xyfdi Solder it to the side of my :sun: rack. -
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¢нαяℓιє яσσт (charlie_root@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 20:34:47 JST ¢нαяℓιє яσσт @p
As an Idahoan, I apologize for micron, cheap RAM was great when it was made here, not Puerto Rico. wtf...pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: likes this. -
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 20:36:06 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: @charlie_root Puerto Rico seems humid for electronics manufacturing.
The RAM did stay in service until it was 12 years old (although it was bad service these last couple of years). -
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Xyfdi Horton (xyfdi@gameliberty.club)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 20:37:53 JST Xyfdi Horton @p Oooh nice one <3
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 23:31:55 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? If you add a couple 😈😈😈 and some 💀💀💀, maybe a goth chick will buy it. -
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p (p@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 23:55:43 JST p @p Time and effort I spend keeping FSE alive, maintaining this piece of shit box and throwing cash at the datacenter and replacement parts, and fixing shit in the middle of the night and waking up and the box has failed and I just drove down there and popped that stick of RAM and thought, "All right, that's the last problem solved. It'll be stable and I can spend my time half on making money and half on finishing Revolver." and here we are again. Box has locked up. Nothing in the IPMI, I expect. I just drove there in the middle of the night to fix the Last Problem and now I gotta file a ticket to get the thing restarted.
Back to job-work in about four hours and I gotta stay up and deal with this box.
I should just take the last backup I have and load that into Revolver, point everything there, and spend the time cramming ActivityPub features and UI endpoints into Revolver instead of maintaining this machine. The problem with that plan is that I committed to keeping it running until Revolver was ready, but if it's a couple of weeks of downtime to get to parity, maybe that's worth the couple of weeks not having to deal with that box. The cost there is all the DMs go away, I'm not putting those into Revolver, plus some media, like there's the old backups but once Revolver's data storage was stable enough, I stopped backing up the uploads and let media.freespeechextremist.com populate the old stuff organically, so there's no guarantee about the size of the gap there, but the missing media would be stuff that no one looked at between the last backup and now, and that's in the off-chance that I can't actually get the old stuff out. Once there's enough stuff implemented that's operable (there are a lot of parts that really aren't ready, so there would be hacks), I could rig enough shit up to probably let people log in with their old passwords and get their accounts live again. Maybe it'd not even require a login, like I have the old DB with tokens and everything, I could generate the keys, map them to local user IDs, then people that are logged in would get greeted with, until the UI endpoints are done, probably just "Here, download your private key, you'll need it later." That actually seems doable. Shitty "user experience", but the box is up and down, it's already a shitty situation.
There are a lot of parts of Revolver that just aren't finished, there are parts that need to be ripped out and replaced, there are parts that are currently *half*-replaced (like the REPL), and there are parts that only work on Plan 9 for right now (all trivial to turn portable, I think, just I haven't done it), but as evidenced by the media server exceeding expectations for handling the load of all the uploads, the base is pretty stable and reliable. (I mean, that's the media server, though. That is a simpler task than handling *all* of the stuff Pleroma was doing. But the only time that thing crashed was when IPFS choked all the RAM out of the Frantech VM it was running on--not hard at 4GB. It hasn't fallen over since I just killed IPFS on that box.) Having to hack fast to get some semblance of parity would destabilize it, sure, but I think I could keep up just fine and the upside is that any errors happening would be bugs to fix in Revolver rather than bailing water trying to keep that machine on life support, which would definitely improve my morale.
On the other hand the service abruptly disappearing would be an inconvenience for most of the people on FSE. We get a phoenix rising from the ashes, but it's a half-retarded phoenix for a while and it takes a couple of weeks.Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: and like this. -
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(mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 23:55:43 JST @p @p
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p (p@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 23:55:44 JST p @p All right, plan before replacing the fucked PSU and the MCE generator impersonating a stick of RAM was to ditch the VMs and just move everything onto the host machine.
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p (p@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 23:55:45 JST p @p GOD :FUCKING DAMN IT Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: likes this. -
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p (p@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 02-Feb-2024 00:07:36 JST p @mint @p likes this. -
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(mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 02-Feb-2024 00:14:29 JST @p @p Just get a machine with a working CD-ROM tray (I sure you have it laying around somewhere), glue a needle to it and place it right next to server's reset button, then make a cron job on that machine to eject it every N hours. -
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p (p@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 02-Feb-2024 01:05:51 JST p @mint @p This is a good idea, but I don't think the datacenter would let me do that, and it's worse than you might imagine: resetting leaves the thing wedged, it has to do a full power-cycle in order to come back to life. likes this. -
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(mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 02-Feb-2024 01:06:59 JST @p @p Predictable problem is not a problem. Adapt and overcome. Pleroma-tan repeated this. -
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p (p@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 02-Feb-2024 01:07:27 JST p @p I think that is probably the way to go. New box is expensive and will not be ready for a while (read: a couple of paychecks from now, probably longer than it would take to kick Revolver out the door). Keeping this machine running is exhausting and untenable. Additionally, I swore repeatedly that I would not hand FSE off to someone so getting someone else and even if I hadn't promised, that I will not hand it off. For the trouble of a move to new infra, it'd be better to just move the data to Revolver.
I understand that this sucks for people using FSE. My apologies. I think the best way to bring FSE back online is to replace it with the thing that can't be killed, and restore functionality as quickly as possible. If you used FSE and have words/thoughts/suggestions, feel free to let me know (if you have a different username wherever you are now, please mention your username on FSE; I am tired and distracted and may not be able to tell).
I think the best course of action at present is finishing the thing that solves this problem permanently, so that's what I'm going to do unless I hear a better idea from someone with a stake in it. I've got an obligation and I will do my damnedest: the point of FSE was to provide a place for you, I said I would, and it evaporated. So if there's anything I can do (e.g., your follower/block lists for wherever you are staying right now, or just a ping so I know where to let you know when it's back up and running), or if you have any ideas or concerns about how I'm rebuilding the place, or if you want help setting up your own instance, whatever the case, just let me know.
If you had a VM on that box and you want the data out, let me know over DMs and we'll figure something out.
As much as I appreciate :moon: letting me crash on his couch while my house is on fire, so as to avoid putting him out, I might hop to a temporary single-user something or another. The drama club blew through last time I was here and I don't want to shit this place up telling them to fuck off or waste my own time dealing with them, but I also don't want to miss messages from actual people. Maybe I'll just be on IRC more and refuse to talk about anything here besides FSE/Revolver.Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: and like this. -
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p (p@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 02-Feb-2024 01:08:47 JST p @mint @p The adaptation is mainly "get some new hardware, this computer is busted". While I am waiting to be able to do that, I'll just resurrect FSE as a Revolver instance. -
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thedonnerd (thedonnerd@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 02-Feb-2024 02:27:44 JST thedonnerd @p @p God love ya Pete! I don't understand any of these technical things, just that it seems like an expensive and huge endeavor. Also, thank you for saying, but no need to ever apologize. You are using your own time, talent and money to keep things going, and I'm forever grateful. Thanks to Moon and others I can make do and hang out here at SPC until things are fixed. I wish I had something to give you, an idea at the very least, sadly I don't. I just wanted you to know how much I love FSE and are so thankful that you are trying to keep it going. I have faith that you'll figure it out. I'm here waiting patiently until it happens. Much love and be blessed! 🥰🤗💗 Sexy Moon likes this. -
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Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Saturday, 03-Feb-2024 03:14:04 JST Pleroma-tan @p @p wait holy shit so we're basically alpha testing revolver? that's actually sick -
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p (p@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 03-Feb-2024 03:27:24 JST p @amerika @mint @p Ha, that would be cool but FSE cannot take donations. Priced it out and I think what I'm gonna do is get Revolver to a state where it can handle 70-80% of what FSE was doing, and then resurrect it like that. Then there's an army of identical nodes that cannot be killed. ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: and Pleroma-tan like this. -
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≠ ≠ ≠ (amerika@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 03-Feb-2024 03:27:25 JST ≠ ≠ ≠ @p @mint @p
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✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 03-Feb-2024 03:30:37 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: @p @p @mint @amerika I hope you can code it fast enough, hope it works out. -
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p (p@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 03-Feb-2024 04:20:53 JST p @dcc @p @mint @amerika :bigbosssalute: I'm a hacker, sir. I do my job. ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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p (p@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 03-Feb-2024 04:43:49 JST p @kirby @p That will be what happens, yeah. A machine that can handle 500GB of Postgres and FSE's traffic is expensive to come by, and in the time it takes to grab one of those, I should just get Revolver out the door.
I re-read that post in the morning, and it's basically stream of consciousness; I spent maybe an hour writing it because I was thinking things through during, and I can almost see my mood change over the first three paragraphs, like if I just write the machine off, then what? And I was thinking of the time fixing this stupid box was taking away from Revolver, and then when the bandwidth bills came in, I hacked the media server stuff into Revolver, and maybe I should just finish the conversion process. The roadmap was Revolver pops up, I close registrations on FSE (they were at the time already closed when my screen was locked), then when Revolver could do FSE's traffic, I bash out something to do the conversion and make the switch, but if I can just hack the rest of it in, that's better, plus it means that I can replace that box with something I have lying around here.
If anyone from FSE has better ideas, I'm still down to think things through, but I think this is the way, I think this is the solution to the problem.Pleroma-tan likes this. -
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Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Saturday, 03-Feb-2024 04:44:23 JST Pleroma-tan @p @p that's actually really cool i'm excited to get a taste of revolver for the first time
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p (p@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 03-Feb-2024 04:49:13 JST p @kirby @p I think you had just randomly pointed an FE at screamshitter.club when I said I was working on the FE stuff.
> does that mean fses pleroma fe will finally upgrade?
At least for now, I don't wanna try to hit a moving target. I might even do bloat first.Pleroma-tan likes this. -
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p (p@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2024 04:52:04 JST p @amerika @mint @p Revolver: the great equalizer. ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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≠ ≠ ≠ (amerika@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2024 04:52:05 JST ≠ ≠ ≠ @p @mint @p
"Its name is Legion, for it is many."