After a closer look at the Apple Vision Pro reviews & talking to people who’ve used it, my prediction of the most likely path is that its evolution resembles the Apple Watch, which went from big, vague promises to a simple health & notifications device. So, a future Vision Air (or whatever) will ditch external eye displays & complexity and mostly be a very large smart display. You can tell any Mac, iPhone, iPad or Apple TV (maybe HomePod!) to extend to this display. That’s the big, basic deal.
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Anil Dash (anildash@me.dm)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 10:33:22 JST Anil Dash -
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Anil Dash (anildash@me.dm)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 10:34:35 JST Anil Dash (And FaceTime in XR should just use memojis instead of weird creepy avatars.)
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Brian Swetland (swetland@chaos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 10:54:26 JST Brian Swetland @thomasfuchs @anildash I'd potentially be interested in AR if it could be delivered in a form factor not much different from the actual glasses I already wear (as opposed to something on the ski-mask to motorcycle-helmet spectrum) with sufficient resolution, battery life, integration, etc.
Of course the killer use-case of "remind me who these people are I'm talking to" immediately falls into a huge pit of privacy and invasiveness concerns for everyone on the other side of the glasses.
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Anil Dash (anildash@me.dm)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 11:04:14 JST Anil Dash The thing to keep in mind is, just as a display alone, the Vision Pro is squarely in the mid-priced range of Apple’s display products.
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Anil Dash (anildash@me.dm)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 11:04:40 JST Anil Dash @steveriggins me too!
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Steve is ready for Xmas (steveriggins@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 11:04:41 JST Steve is ready for Xmas @anildash multiple cooking timers placed over the pots was *very* interesting to Elizabeth
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Anil Dash (anildash@me.dm)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 11:05:05 JST Anil Dash @thomasfuchs millions of people already use headsets of some type.
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Marco Rogers (polotek@social.polotek.net)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 11:05:18 JST Marco Rogers @thomasfuchs @anildash do people talk about why the touchbar failed so hard? What lessons were learned?
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Anil Dash (anildash@me.dm)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 11:06:13 JST Anil Dash @polotek @thomasfuchs I assumed the touch bar was just an attempt to use up TSMC fab capacity for T1 chips until they could get the M1 chips far enough along to be ready for launch.
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Anil Dash (anildash@me.dm)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 11:16:18 JST Anil Dash @jordan yep!
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Jordan (jordan@brocks.social)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 11:16:23 JST Jordan @anildash Cinema Display mini
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Anil Dash (anildash@me.dm)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 11:17:17 JST Anil Dash Also, from 14 years ago, on iPad announcement day.
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Anil Dash (anildash@me.dm)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 13:19:19 JST Anil Dash @planettimmy even if it gets to roughly $1300, if it can run apps on its own, it’s very compelling. For the same reason an iPad is.
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Tim Aidley (planettimmy@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 13:19:22 JST Tim Aidley @anildash I think the 'just a display' idea is quite interesting. How cheap could you make the system if you just wanted passthrough and some fairly basic 'display something on some flat panels in VR space' functionality?
I know Apple isn't in to cheap, but if you can put a single much lower cost processor in it, and only have enough sensors for passthrough and basic head tracking (no hand tracking at all), perhaps it could be the $700 display that you can use with all your iDevices?
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Anil Dash (anildash@me.dm)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 22:51:30 JST Anil Dash @Vorsos yeah but their stuff looked corny.
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Vorsos (vorsos@beige.party)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 22:51:32 JST Vorsos @anildash We all mocked Meta for their cartoon character VR meetings, though…
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Sam (electranyx@graphics.social)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 23:42:49 JST Sam @thomasfuchs @anildash There is a huge age divide here. Just as with iPad and iPhone old people struggle to envisage new paridigms. Old bloggers often call iPads “consumption devices”, young people use them exclusively. Vision Pro will only take shape if and when it’s cheap enough for kids to define. Keeping it expensive dooms it to be defined by the middle aged.
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Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉 (migueldeicaza@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 23:46:38 JST Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉 @thomasfuchs hey hey hey
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Pär Björklund (paxxi@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 01-Feb-2024 03:21:15 JST Pär Björklund @thomasfuchs @Migueldeicaza it's a toy for rich people, like a Lamborghini, fun, not very practical and not for the masses
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