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   Ars Technica (arstechnica@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 02:55:10 JST Ars Technica

   Higher vehicle hoods significantly increase pedestrian deaths, study finds

   Single-vehicle, single-pedestrian crash data for 2016-2021 finds hoods a problem.

   https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/01/higher-vehicle-hoods-significantly-increase-pedestrian-deaths-study-finds/?utm_brand=arstechnica&utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social

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     Church of Jeff (jeffowski@mastodon.world)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 02:55:02 JST Church of Jeff

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     • Sir Osis of Liver 🇨🇦 🇲🇽

     @Richard_hoperestored @Sir_Osis_of_Liver @arstechnica — unless it is a business lease and they commute 45 minutes from their country home in a Ford F-350 superduty with a crew cab by himself. You can always tell what kind of boss you have when you can compare what he drives to what the employees drive (or not). Amazing to me that the boss’s entire business relies on this one dude riding a scooter to work on SNOW days to make sure production happens.

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     Richard (richard_hoperestored@mstdn.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 02:55:06 JST Richard

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     @Sir_Osis_of_Liver @arstechnica Exactly. Folks buy vehicles that suit their purposes for the most part and we shouldn't judge what someone drives without knowing why.

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     Sir Osis of Liver 🇨🇦 🇲🇽 (sir_osis_of_liver@beige.party)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 02:55:07 JST Sir Osis of Liver 🇨🇦 🇲🇽

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     @Richard_hoperestored @arstechnica

     We've known about the correlation between hood height and pedestrian deaths since the 1980s. This study reaffirms prior knowledge.

     My last pickup was an '86 4x4 F150. I could still lean in to check the oil and such easily enough while standing on the ground. I could reach over the bed rails to grab things out of the back.

     My brother in law's '22 GMC 2500 4x4's hood is basically at my chin, about the same as the D700 Dodge stake truck I drove back in the '80s. Forget reaching over the side. It's the least useful pickup I've been around for anything other than towing. That's about the only thing he uses it for, towing a large horse trailer and a gooseneck flatbed for his hobby farm.

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     Richard (richard_hoperestored@mstdn.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 02:55:10 JST Richard

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     @arstechnica Confusing article. Seems like it started with the premise that trucks and suvs are bad then worked backwards to confirm it.

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     Church of Jeff (jeffowski@mastodon.world)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 04:53:18 JST Church of Jeff

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     @Richard_hoperestored @Sir_Osis_of_Liver @arstechnica -- I call it the 5% fallacy. When you buy a car, you use it 95% of the time to commute to work, get groceries, take the kids to school, etc.
     But people buy trucks and SUVs based on the 5% fallacy of basing 100% of your purchase on the 5% of cases.
     You could buy a commuter car and save a lot of money and save a lot of carbon utilizing a car that will meet 95% off all your needs better.

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     Richard (richard_hoperestored@mstdn.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 04:53:19 JST Richard

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     @jeffowski @Sir_Osis_of_Liver @arstechnica Yeah, that's a whole other issue. The psychology behind which vehicles people buy. That gets beyond practical and into something else.