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Adam Lui :verified: (adam@elonsucks.org)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 01:50:40 JST Adam Lui :verified:

Someone asked Midjourney to reimagine billionaires as poor
1/6 Elon Musk
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  ≠ Brett Stevens ≠ (amerika@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 01:49:52 JST ≠ Brett Stevens ≠
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  No, that it supports the same censorship agenda and is working with the US government regarding what to censor.
  
  BlueSky is the Jack Dorsey project?
  
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  Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 01:49:52 JST Sexy Moon
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  @amerika @StefanEJones @adam it's run by twitter people, dorsey has moved on to nostr
  
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  Adam Lui :verified: (adam@elonsucks.org)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 01:49:53 JST Adam Lui :verified:
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  @amerika @StefanEJones wdym, is it owned by major corporation?
  
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  ≠ Brett Stevens ≠ (amerika@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 01:49:54 JST ≠ Brett Stevens ≠
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  If you want the old government censorship back, it's great!
  
  Like #Reddit, #HackerNews, and #Meta.
  
  But it might be time to step up to freedom.
  
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  Adam Lui :verified: (adam@elonsucks.org)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 01:49:55 JST Adam Lui :verified:
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  @StefanEJones no I don't and don't know what it is, would like to check it out though
  
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  Stefan Edward Jones (stefanejones@dice.camp)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 01:49:55 JST Stefan Edward Jones
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  @adam Bluesky is another Twitter alternative. Currently a much saner place than X.
  If you want to give it a try:
  https://bsky.app
  Invite code to start an account:
  bsky-social-ld2gr-fysdw
  
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  Adam Lui :verified: (adam@elonsucks.org)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 01:49:57 JST Adam Lui :verified:
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  @jerry no, blocked is going away, shadow-ban is forever
  
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  Stefan Edward Jones (stefanejones@dice.camp)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 01:49:57 JST Stefan Edward Jones
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  @adam You've probably been offered one already, but if you want a Bluesky invite so you can post there, just give a holler.
  
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  Jerry Bogale :verified: :qma: (jerry@elonsucks.org)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 01:50:31 JST Jerry Bogale :verified: :qma:
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  @adam like blocked?
  
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  Jerry Bogale :verified: :qma: (jerry@elonsucks.org)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 01:50:32 JST Jerry Bogale :verified: :qma:
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  @adam you should post that on Twitter/X
  
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  Adam Lui :verified: (adam@elonsucks.org)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 01:50:32 JST Adam Lui :verified:
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  @jerry i am shadow-banned by the elon musk on twitter x
  
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  ≠ Brett Stevens ≠ (amerika@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 01:50:46 JST ≠ Brett Stevens ≠
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  Thanks. That could be even worse.
  
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  Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 01:50:46 JST Sexy Moon
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  @amerika @StefanEJones @adam they already are banning people by association via the invite code tree.
  
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  ≠ Brett Stevens ≠ (amerika@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 01:54:45 JST ≠ Brett Stevens ≠
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  I find it hard to trust any site that follows the recommendations of government.
  
  Where are the real rebels?
  
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  Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 01:54:45 JST Sexy Moon
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  @amerika @StefanEJones @adam nostr doesn't rely on servers and uses self-sovereign identities (public key cryptography.) it has a lot of problems but it has potential too. the clear answer doesn't exist yet I'm afraid.
  
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  Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 01:57:06 JST Sexy Moon
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  @amerika @StefanEJones @adam urbit is an experiment and not suitable for serious use. it is great, I love it, but it's too troublesome and unreliable.
  
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  ≠ Brett Stevens ≠ (amerika@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 01:57:08 JST ≠ Brett Stevens ≠
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  I kind of like where Urbit was going, but not the implementation.
  
  People need portable accounts and an end to link rot.
  
  Not an easy problem. Maybe Ted Nelson knows?
  
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  Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 02:00:23 JST Sexy Moon
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  @adiz @amerika @adam @StefanEJones it is the best kind of troll, a troll that is fully real.
  
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  :verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶 (adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 02:00:24 JST :verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶
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  @Moon@shitposter.club @amerika@freespeechextremist.com @StefanEJones@dice.camp @adam@elonsucks.org Urbit is like a fever dream schitzotech.
  
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  Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 02:01:52 JST Sexy Moon
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  @adiz @amerika @adam @StefanEJones bluesky had a good vibe going but as we on the fediverse for many years know, the vibe changes when more shitstains from twitter join.
  
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  @amerika@freespeechextremist.com I find it hard to trust any centralized network, especially one managed by a corporation. @Moon@shitposter.club @StefanEJones@dice.camp @adam@elonsucks.org
  
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  Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 02:06:50 JST Sexy Moon
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  @adiz @amerika @adam @StefanEJones I own two Urbit stars and can program in Hoon. I'm invested. But it is a LOT of work and it remains SUPER rough. If you treat this all as gatekeeping to keep out a certain type of social parasite, it becomes tolerable. I went to an Urbit convention and everybody I met there was the best kind of person.
  
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  @Moon@shitposter.club Urbit is insane and retarded. Nostr is interesting but has some serious issues of its own that makes its utilization difficult and just kinda gross. Of all the current solutions, I think the decentralized, independent, numerous client-server model that the Fediverse is built on is the most polished, user-friendly, and intuitive. It's not perfect, something more P2P would be ideal, but also adds lots of complexity and difficulty. I keep going back to SSB as an interesting protocol, but I've not really seen any good implementations of it. @amerika@freespeechextremist.com @StefanEJones@dice.camp @adam@elonsucks.org
  
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  ≠ Brett Stevens ≠ (amerika@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 02:08:26 JST ≠ Brett Stevens ≠
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  Back when it was hard to get on the internet, the audience was pretty good.
  
  Now that you only have to buy a cellphone for $30 to get online...
  
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  Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 02:09:16 JST Sexy Moon
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  @adiz @amerika @adam @StefanEJones I have friends that will never use SSB because the cryptographic signing means all your messages are non-repudiable. Same problem with Nostr. You are signing all your messages with a strong cryptographic proof.
  
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  :verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶 (adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 02:09:17 JST :verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶
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  @amerika@freespeechextremist.com SSB is a really interesting concept. Basically device to device, peer to peer. Just like how humans traditionally communicate. E.g., you send a bunch of messages, they live on your device. You and I hang out, your device syncs your messages with my device and vice-versa---you get all the messages I got, I get all the messages you got. The next time I or you meet up with someone else, all those messages sync/federate with those other people, and everything flows down the grape vine. @Moon@shitposter.club @adam@elonsucks.org @StefanEJones@dice.camp
  
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  ≠ Brett Stevens ≠ (amerika@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 02:09:19 JST ≠ Brett Stevens ≠
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  https://ssbc.github.io/scuttlebutt-protocol-guide/
  
  Interesting.
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  Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 02:12:54 JST Sexy Moon
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  @adiz @amerika @adam @StefanEJones even with pgp you only sign messages you WANT to be provably from you.
  
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  @Moon@shitposter.club A lot of people would look at that as a desirable feature. @amerika@freespeechextremist.com @adam@elonsucks.org @StefanEJones@dice.camp
  
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  @Moon@shitposter.club You don't have to tie your identity to a hash. It could just be a hash without a face behind it. @amerika@freespeechextremist.com @adam@elonsucks.org @StefanEJones@dice.camp
  
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  Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 02:14:46 JST Sexy Moon
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  @adiz @amerika @adam @StefanEJones Moon Man is my real name
  
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  Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 02:17:55 JST Sexy Moon
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  @adiz @amerika @adam @StefanEJones one mistake and your entire history is now provable. it's very easy to make one mistake.
  
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  @Moon@shitposter.club But, seriously, the only folks who should worry or be affected by non-repudiate hash signing are morons who put their real face and real legal name on the internet for all to see. Kind of a moot point, because if the state wants to track you or find you they're going to do so either way---not by connecting a hash to an identity. There are so many other ways and other concerns about tracking or identity deobfuscation than this. @amerika@freespeechextremist.com @adam@elonsucks.org @StefanEJones@dice.camp
  
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  @Moon@shitposter.club Yeah, Adiz is my real name and I'm actually a skeleton IRL. @amerika@freespeechextremist.com @adam@elonsucks.org @StefanEJones@dice.camp
  
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  ≠ Brett Stevens ≠ (amerika@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 02:19:25 JST ≠ Brett Stevens ≠
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  We would riff on the old anus.com metal forum about how one solution is that every account is anonymous.
  
  No names, just numbers.
  
  Cut down the drama!
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  Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 02:21:24 JST Sexy Moon
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  @adiz @amerika @adam @StefanEJones you can stay anonymous if you take care to not attach your public identity to your ssb identity. but if somehow you or someone else can derive that identity, it makes all your messages now incriminating. the issue is that the longer you go, the more likely you are to make one tiny mistake that blows all your opsec 100% away.
  
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  @Moon@shitposter.club What do you mean "entire history is now provable"? @amerika@freespeechextremist.com @adam@elonsucks.org @StefanEJones@dice.camp
  
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  ≠ Brett Stevens ≠ (amerika@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 12:02:57 JST ≠ Brett Stevens ≠
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  The people who want hugboxes are scary.
  
  @p makes a convincing argument that speech is a binary:
  
  1. You have total free speech, or
  2. You are on the path to a hugbox
  
  The latter always supports brand and corporate interests.
  
  The question is how to make free speech a cultural value so that everyone supports it, including big fat corpos.
  
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  pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 12:06:55 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
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  > The people who want hugboxes are scary.
  
  The second "You may not criticize this" exists, the gap fills with psychopaths.
  
  > The latter always supports brand and corporate interests.
  
  You can't see this because we are using a textual medium, but I spat.
  
  > The question is how to make free speech a cultural value so that everyone supports it, including big fat corpos.
  
  I gave up on that. The only way to make it work is to make it impossible for opposition to be tenable. The only way to do that is to make sure it is valued. The only way to do that is to make sure that people have it and know what they are missing without it.
  
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  @amerika@freespeechextremist.com You will never get total free speech and you won't be able to make free speech a universally enshrined cultural value because censorship and narrative control are too powerful utilities to be underutilized by individuals, companies, governments, et al.. @Moon@shitposter.club @StefanEJones@dice.camp @adam@elonsucks.org @p@freespeechextremist.com
  
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  Sure, use competition as a way to show a better way.
  
  That works for now.
  
  Eventually, humanity has to Grow Up and realize that this narcissistic "I'm offended" shit is always parasitism by psychopaths and their Useful Idiot simps and cucks.
  
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  pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 12:58:39 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
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  > Eventually, humanity has to Grow Up
  
  I don't have a lot of hope in that, either, unfortunately. I think people will be people. The upside of this is that there are facets of human nature that make it work: people do not often have a widespread cultural appreciation for something abstract, but if they have something, they will push back against it being taken away. Making that freedom concrete and letting people enjoy that freedom gets them behind its preservation when it's under threat.
  
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  They forget very easily.
  
  Human evolution is still ongoing, and I think we are seeing a Darwinian filter approach.
  
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  @amerika@freespeechextremist.com @p@freespeechextremist.com You could make that statement centuries ago and it would be equally valid. @Moon@shitposter.club @StefanEJones@dice.camp @adam@elonsucks.org
  
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  It is a threshold that we needed to cross and backed away from, but now the need has become crucial.
  
  Old story, very sad.
  
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