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   SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jan-2024 05:39:16 JST SuperDicq

   Imagine being a VMware customer right now.
   
   As always Stallman was right.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jan-2024 05:51:17 JST SuperDicq

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     • A Real Arwing :n64: :neofox:

     @realarwing@cdrom.tokyo VMware got bought out by Broadcom and they are just discontinuing all existing perpetual licenses so people have to buy subscriptions instead. Also all resellers are simply fucked.

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     A Real Arwing :n64: :neofox: (realarwing@cdrom.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jan-2024 05:51:24 JST A Real Arwing :n64: :neofox:

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     @SuperDicq Did something happened?

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jan-2024 05:57:19 JST SuperDicq

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     • garfieldairlines.net

     @garfieldairlines@fedi.garfieldairlines.net VMware got bought out by Broadcom and they are just discontinuing all existing perpetual licenses so people have to buy subscriptions instead. Also all resellers are simply fucked.

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     garfieldairlines.net (garfieldairlines@fedi.garfieldairlines.net)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jan-2024 05:57:22 JST garfieldairlines.net

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     @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo something going on with VMWare today that I missed in the news ?

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     garfieldairlines.net (garfieldairlines@fedi.garfieldairlines.net)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jan-2024 08:32:10 JST garfieldairlines.net

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     @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo yeah knew about that part, thought there was something new today or so.
     Good luck migrating a proprietary infrastructure on dozens of bare metal servers while having business critical running software on it...

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jan-2024 08:33:44 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • garfieldairlines.net
     @SuperDicq @garfieldairlines I love how "perpetual" licences never are except for proper non-revocable copyright licences.
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jan-2024 08:50:23 JST feld

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     • garfieldairlines.net
     @lanodan @garfieldairlines @SuperDicq The license is still perpetual. AIUI, in the USA (and probably EU) when you receive a license for something it's forever. It can never be taken away. The license itself is a piece of property you now own, so whatever it says it grants you is what you get.
     
     The change is that VMWare will just never sell you any perpetual licenses ever again, so you're stuck with whatever the last version is they sold you a license for. If you want to upgrade you have to do their new subscription model.
     
     I do not believe VMWare ever sold any licenses that covered all future versions of VMWare products for eternity. The way people describe the situation makes it appear as though they are screwing over customers who paid them, when instead they're just abusing the existing customers who are locked into the VMWare ecosystem. A different flavor of evil.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jan-2024 09:25:57 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • garfieldairlines.net
     @feld @garfieldairlines @SuperDicq
     > AIUI, in the USA (and probably EU) when you receive a license for something it's forever.
     
     Bit surprising given how broken copyright can get, got a source about this? (USA one acceptable)
     
     > A different flavor of evil.
     Right, which either way isn't much of a difference in modern age where a constant stream of updates are often needed, specially for something like VMware products (where security issues seem quite frequent), hence why a "perpetual" licence would be appealing.
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jan-2024 09:34:04 JST Sexy Moon

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     • garfieldairlines.net
     @feld @garfieldairlines @SuperDicq @lanodan what was the value proposition of perpetual license if doesn't cover new versions and you know they can pull support at any time
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jan-2024 09:48:44 JST feld

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     • garfieldairlines.net
     @Moon @garfieldairlines @SuperDicq @lanodan A license for e.g., VMWare ESXi 6 gave you all the 6.x updates and the license didn't expire if you still need to use the software 10 years from now.
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jan-2024 09:50:12 JST feld

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     • garfieldairlines.net
     @Moon @SuperDicq @garfieldairlines @lanodan also support is a completely separate situation. You pay additionally for a support contract.
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jan-2024 09:50:59 JST Sexy Moon

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     • garfieldairlines.net
     @feld @garfieldairlines @SuperDicq @lanodan oh yeah I forgot that. I bought vmware player and it wouldn't even launch and I tried to file a but report and they told me to fuck off unless I paid them more money.
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