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   Kit Rhett Aultman (roadriverrail@signs.codes)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jan-2024 00:46:33 JST Kit Rhett Aultman

   • Danny Blue

   @deebloo I'd actually love to learn to use a lever machine, but my partners are going to want frothy milk beverages, too, so I need machinery for that.

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     Kit Rhett Aultman (roadriverrail@signs.codes)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jan-2024 01:14:42 JST Kit Rhett Aultman

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     • Christopher M0YNG

     @M0YNG @deebloo This one is on the top of my list, actually! If I can operate it fully manually, I'd consider it. Steam and electronics is a recipe for a part burning out, and I don't want to lose manual operation when that happens.

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     Christopher M0YNG (m0yng@mastodon.radio)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jan-2024 01:14:43 JST Christopher M0YNG

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     • Danny Blue

     @roadriverrail @deebloo I've literally just bought (it's somewhere between the seller and me right now) a "SAGE the Barista Pro"

     I think it does everything I need/want.
     Will do manual shots (but can be programmed)
     Has decent grinder
     Can froth milk
     Can be had for not stupid money if you get a refurb unit.

     A review, if you like them in video format
     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PLt0TrLwZU

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     Adrian Roselli (aardrian@toot.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jan-2024 02:58:34 JST Adrian Roselli

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     • Danny Blue

     @roadriverrail
     FWIW, I do cappuccino daily with a manual lever (Flair 58, Rok, broken Robot) and a Bellman stovetop steamer: https://bellmanespresso.com/products/bellman-stovetop-steamer-50ss

     But if you want steam from a machine because reasons (time, hassle), then you can ignore me.

     @deebloo

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     Kit Rhett Aultman (roadriverrail@signs.codes)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jan-2024 02:58:34 JST Kit Rhett Aultman

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     • Danny Blue

     @aardrian @deebloo Actually, it's useful to consider all my options, so I certainly wouldn't ignore you. Yes, the stove and the coffee station are across the kitchen from one another, and there are some inefficiencies in firing up two heating elements to achieve the same thing, but a setup like that does optimize for other factors, so it's good to know it's possible.

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     Kit Rhett Aultman (roadriverrail@signs.codes)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jan-2024 04:09:10 JST Kit Rhett Aultman

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     • Danny Blue
     • Christopher M0YNG

     @M0YNG @deebloo I mean, if the electronic control is just for fire-and-forget operations and I can do everything manually without it, it's fine. I'm leery of electronic control because I just lost an electric kettle that way. Steam and/or hot water got into the electronic temperature control circuit and killed it. Had it been a basic thermostat, I might have been able to fix it myself.

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     Christopher M0YNG (m0yng@mastodon.radio)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jan-2024 04:09:12 JST Christopher M0YNG

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     • Danny Blue

     @roadriverrail @deebloo maybe a bambino then? Not the plus, so you don't have steam. But they you also/still need a grinder.

     I have a small electronic milk frother and heater that does a pretty good job for two button presses.
     Not as fancy as proper steaming, but also no risk of causing failure in other equipment.

     Something like this
     https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BX6B62KC/