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   Joshua Holland (joshuaholland@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 00:03:07 JST Joshua Holland

   Xitter suspended, without explanation, Steven Monacelli, Ken Klippenstein, Rob Rousseau, the TrueAnon podcast and almost certainly others. And I’d still bet my last dollar that I’ll soon read an article that describes Musk as devoted to free speech. #elonmusk #fascism

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 00:03:06 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @JoshuaHolland Musk never claimed you can say whatever you want and not get banned.

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     Joshua Holland (joshuaholland@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 00:22:34 JST Joshua Holland

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     • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     @freemo He has repeatedly claimed that he believes in the principle of free speech and these people didn't say a single thing to get banned.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 00:22:34 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @JoshuaHolland Claiming they didnt say a single thing worthy of being banned is a claim you'd have to prove, and probably going to have a hard time doing it.

     Yes he has claimed he beleives in free speech, and he has made clear that does **not** mean he beleives in any speech on his platform being allowed. You may disagree with his interpretation of free speech, but he has made it clear what he meant and it isnt what you mean by it apparently.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 01:25:58 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @Lazarou

     Agreed, it is good we announce who we are so you guys wont infect our feeds with your toxic bullshit.

     @Tempehlover @JoshuaHolland

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     Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈 (lazarou@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 01:25:59 JST Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈

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     • Debra M

     @Tempehlover @freemo @JoshuaHolland but in a way it's good these people announce who they are so we can block them.

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     Debra M (tempehlover@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 01:26:00 JST Debra M

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     • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     @freemo @JoshuaHolland you’re wrong and spending time capping for a fascist is pathetic https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/sep/07/elon-musks-hypocrisy-about-free-speech-hits-a-new-low

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 03:49:53 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     • jburd

     @jbburd

     Calls for violence seem like a fairly common and reasonable line to draw.

     @JoshuaHolland

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     jburd (jbburd@mastodon.online)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 03:49:54 JST jburd

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     @freemo @JoshuaHolland

     That's true. By free speech absolutism he means for people with views like mine.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 04:40:28 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     • jburd

     @jbburd

     "Decolinization" not so much, but "from the river to the sea" does imply genocide of the native people and a desire to take their land. It seems to be a decleration of genocide and violence.

     @JoshuaHolland

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     jburd (jbburd@mastodon.online)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 04:40:29 JST jburd

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     @freemo @JoshuaHolland

     Using terms such as 'decolonization' and 'from the river to the sea' are not calls to violence even if the free speech overlord deems them to be.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 04:46:29 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @jbburd @JoshuaHolland

     Which has multigenerational people living on it. So you only get to that state with genocide, how else do you plan to eliminate the people that are there?

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     jburd (jbburd@mastodon.online)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 04:46:30 JST jburd

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     • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     @freemo @JoshuaHolland

     That's incorrect.

     "...what Palestinians are calling for when they use the phrase in question: a state in which Palestinians can live in their homeland as free and equal citizens, neither dominated by others nor dominating them. "

     https://jewishcurrents.org/what-does-from-the-river-to-the-sea-really-mean

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 04:56:46 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     What you just did is called moving the goal post. I am in no way claiming they cant be free, they just cant have land to themselves without murdering since people are there. For example a one state solution where both sides merge into one state would allow they and israelis to be "free" but would not give palestinians the land "from the river to the sea"

     @JoshuaHolland

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     jburd (jbburd@mastodon.online)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 04:56:47 JST jburd

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     @freemo @JoshuaHolland

     The occupied Palestinian territories are physically on the Jordan *River* and the Mediterranean *Sea*. Calling for the freedom of Palestinians within their own home land doesn't call for eliminating anyone.

     Meanwhile Israeli leaders have been calling for and carrying out genocide in Gaza. Has Musk banned any of them?

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 05:01:41 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     And as i said thats not what the statement means. It means that palestine is forr palestinians. It by its nature rejects sharing the land with the jews that are there. It implies the jews are eliminated and the land given back to palestinians.

     @JoshuaHolland

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     jburd (jbburd@mastodon.online)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 05:01:42 JST jburd

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     @freemo @JoshuaHolland

     Seems like you either didn't read it or understand the first time ...

     "...what Palestinians are calling for when they use the phrase in question: a state in which Palestinians can live in their homeland as free and equal citizens, neither dominated by others nor dominating them. "

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 05:04:52 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     • jburd

     @jbburd seeing as i just spent 2 years living with them i dont really need someone to tell me what they mean. They have explained themselves many times.

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     jburd (jbburd@mastodon.online)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 05:04:53 JST jburd

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     @freemo

     That's not what Palestinians say:
     https://jewishcurrents.org/what-does-from-the-river-to-the-sea-really-mean

     I'm going to let this go now. You have a nice day. Be good.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 05:10:57 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @jbburd And you have a good day as well