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ONE POINT OF MY CHAFING AT MISAPPLIED TECH THAT I KEEP WANTING TO MAKE AN EFFORT POST ABOUT FOR YEARS AND NEVER DO IS HOW NICKEL IRON BATTERIES ARE VERY CLEARLY THE SETUP THAT WILL STAND THE TEST OF TIME BUT FOR THE RETARDED DESIRE TO POWER ELECTRIC MOTORS WITH BATTERIES
IM GLAD THAT THERES AT LEAST SOME SKEPTICISM ABOUT THAT CONCEPT NOW THAT SOME MACHINE PEOPLE ARE PUSHING "ELECTRIC VEHICLES"
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@Jens_Rasmussen @Griffith @NathanielHigger1488 @WandererUber @vic @skylar NO RACIAL MECHANICS
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@Griffith @NathanielHigger1488 @WandererUber @nugger @vic @skylar A pop is still assumed to be identical to any other pop, given identical circumstances.
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@Jens_Rasmussen @NathanielHigger1488 @WandererUber @nugger @vic @skylar Vic 2 has a mechanic with primary and secondary populations, and slavery pops in colonial territories. But otherwise you’re right.
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@Jens_Rasmussen @Griffith @NathanielHigger1488 @nugger @vic @skylar find them lacking tbh. I liked stellaris at first but that wore off quickly. CK is mid and liberalism-poisoned in it's understanding of history.
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@WandererUber @Griffith @NathanielHigger1488 @nugger @vic @skylar All spreadsheet games are generally race-blind and/or similar.
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@NathanielHigger1488 @nugger @vic @Griffith @skylar I am a heirmaxxed milkerpilled ICBMcel with colonycore vibes
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@WandererUber @NathanielHigger1488 @Griffith @nugger @vic @skylar >How many Paradox games do you play
All of them.
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@nugger @WandererUber @vic @Griffith @skylar Be that guy who got banned from donating sperm
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@vic @Griffith @nugger @skylar no numbers games huh?
number of heirs produced, kilotons of TNT equivalent to my ICBM payloads, apoapsis of my colony ships orbit, how many thousands of foes vanquished under my boot, gallons of breastmilk drunk, rounds per minute fire rate of my machinegun prototype and so on
pick the right numbers and your life will be exciting and full of adventures, the exclusive domain of the white man
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@WandererUber @vic @Griffith @skylar HEIRMAXXING BY OUTPRODUCING ALL OTHER SPERM BANK DONORS
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@Griffith @WandererUber @skylar ITS A "IS AI LITERATE" TYPE OF QUESTION
IF SOCIETY IS THE AGGREGATE SOCIAL, INTERPERSONAL FUNCTION OF HUMAN BEINGS THEN NO, EXTERNAL PERFORMANCE METRICS ARE INCIDENTAL
IF SOCIETY IS A CORPORATION HUMAN BEINGS ENTER FROM WITHOUT FOR AN EXTRINSIC PURPOSE, THEN THE PERSONHOOD OF MEMBERS IS INCIDENTAL AND THAT SOCIETY IS BEST WHICH BEST DOES X
TONS OF STEEL, LOW CRIME RATES, REPORTED HAPPINESS, PICK THE METRIC
CAN THE TWO COINCIDE?
FOR A WHILE, DEPENDING ON THE METRIC BUT THESE ARE TWO DIVERGENT CURVES AND EVENTUALLY THEY MOVE APART
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@nugger @Griffith @WandererUber @skylar Anyone who makes life a numbers game is going to have a miserable, empty life. On the other hand, anyone who doesn't step back and make clear, actionable goals (which can nearly always be reduced to numbers, e.g. I have 0 kids right now and want 3) is just going to wander aimlessly through time until they die (though for many this is fine, see Africa and India).
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@nugger @WandererUber @skylar I think this was my point. Isn’t instrumentalization a step towards improving society? Even in a post-industrial or pre-industrial world, isn’t what you’d call manipulation to a ruler what they’d call “keeping their hands on the steering wheel?”
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@Griffith @WandererUber @skylar OH, WRONG HELLTHREAD THEN
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@Griffith @WandererUber @skylar THE OTHER ONE IS ABOUT HOW INSTRUMENTALIZING HUMAN BEHAVIOR IS NEVER INNOCENT AND IS ALWAYS MANIPULATIVE WHETHER THE PERSON DOING IT INTENDS TO MANIPULATE OR NOT
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@nugger @WandererUber @skylar “BECAUSE THATS THE IMPLICATION OF THEORIZING HOW SOMETHING WORKS"
I think I read it correctly.
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@Griffith @WandererUber @skylar ITS WHAT THE POST IN THE THREAD YOU'RE REPLYING TO IS ABOUT
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@Griffith @WandererUber @skylar IF YOU READ THE OP VERY CAREFULLY YOU MIGHT NOTICE THAT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT HISTORICAL ACCIDENT LEADING TO MISAPPLICATION OF TECHNOLOGY
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@nugger @WandererUber @skylar I haven’t said a word about smart fridges you’re just getting flustered.
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@Griffith @WandererUber @skylar YOU'RE DOING A POOR JOB OF ARGUING FOR THE NECESSITY OF SMART FRIDGES FOR THE EXISTENCE OF HUMAN SOCIETY
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@Griffith @WandererUber @skylar EQUATING FUCKIN CIVILIZATION WRIT LARGE TO CONTEMPORARY TECH COMPLEXES LIKE IOT
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@nugger @WandererUber @skylar You’re proving Kaczyinsky an anarchist.
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@Griffith @WandererUber @skylar COOL POST NIGGA IM AN ANTI-CHIPPER SO GO GO GADGET SAVE YOUR BREATH
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@skylar @WandererUber THE REAL INTERNET OF THINGS TECH IS MADE CUSTOM BY LINUXOIDS OUT OF RASPBERRY PI'S STUCK INTO OFF THE SHELF SHIT
BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND THE TECH
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@nugger @WandererUber @skylar This is the Dr. Gadget vision of technology and as a guy who has sat in VCs drunk listening to linuxoids ramble about AMD vs NIVIDIA for three hours I can tell you they are as much specialist/division of labor enjoyers as any windows user, just a different breed that cares much more about the technology and gets much better results.
The town blacksmith still needs the mines to produce ore and process it and both of them need the merchants to bring it to a fro profitably. There’s no being a nation or economic system of one. At least not without fully retreating to the woods and doing irl Minecraft; hitting trees with your palm and carving them with your teeth. And then if you got things going, what would you build? On a long enough timeline, you would build civilization.
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@nugger @WandererUber shit like smart fridges could be useful rather than retarded and gay
imagine if a deep freeze had a built in battery (or PoE) to run a little network card that would start screaming and send you an email if it gets too warm in there so you could take action before your 2 grand worth of meat spoiled
instead some faggot glued a tablet to a fridge door so you could watch ads featuring mixed race homosexuals
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@WandererUber I LIKE BATTERIES FOR THINGS BATTERIES ARE GOOD FOR
I DISLIKE BATTERIES GETTING SHOEHORNED INTO PLACES THEY DON'T BELONG AND THEN BEING OPTIMIZED FOR PERFORMANCE IN THOSE APPLICATIONS
EDISONS HAVE Z E R O BATTERY TECHNICIAN TYPE SHIT
NO DENDRITES, NO CAPACITY LOSS THROUGH CHARGE CYCLES
NO BABYING THE BATTERY PILE BY ONLY EVER CHARGING IT TO 95% AND DISCHARGING NO LOWER THAN 70
NO "WOOPS I RAN IT DRY, NOW ITS FUCKED" DEEP CYCLING ISSUES
NO FIRES NO EXPLOSIONS NO TOXIC FUMES AND NO EXOTIC MATERIALS
IRON, NICKEL, LYE WATER
VILLAGE BLACKSMITH IS YOUR BATTERY TECH
>BUT CAPACITY
SO MAKE IT BIGGER
WITH MORE CAPACITY
>BUT I NEED POWER ON THE GO
ITS CALLED GASOLINE, KEROSENE, DIESEL
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@WandererUber OK IMAGINE THERE'S A SMALL SOUTH EAST ASIAN COUNTRY
ELECTRIFICATION CAME LATE, GRID WAS IFFY FOR A TIME, WHATEVER
HISTORICAL CIRCUMSTANCE
BOTTOM LINE -- THEY HAVE A FUNNY ELECTRIC CODE, THERES A BATTERY BEHIND EVERY OUTLET AND LIGHT FIXTURE
EVERYTHING IS A FLASHLIGHT BASICALLY
AND THEY HAVE A CENTRAL HOOKUP
EVERY HOUSE HAS A DETACHED SHED THEY GO TO EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE AND RECHARGE ALL THEIR BATTERIES
NEAT, FUNNY, CUTE.
TOURIST ATTRACTION
YOUTUBE VIDEOS ARE MADE ABOUT THE VERY UNIQUE SYSTEM
PROBABLY HAS ADVANTAGES OF IT'S OWN
GOOD USE OF THE TECH?
NOT REALLY
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@WandererUber THERE ARE GOOD AND BAD USE CASES FOR TECHNOLOGY,
AND SOMETIMES A DIFFERENT, ADJACENT TECHNOLOGICAL COMPLEX KIND OF EMANATES A PULL TOWARD BAD USE CASES
SUCH AS FOR EXAMPLE "THE INTERNET OF THINGS" AND SMART FRIDGES
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@WandererUber AS FOR PORTABLE COMPUTING IM A BIG ENEMY OF IT
Posted from my iPhone using TapATalk texting app for seniors!
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@nugger YEAH I GET IT YOU DONT LIKE BATTERIES
SO WHAT WAS ALL THAT SHIT ABOUT NICKEL IRON ABOUT NUGGER
WHAT FOR?
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@WandererUber >CAN'T RUN A CORDLESS DRILL ON GASOLINE 😏
CORDED IS BETTER
>WELL WHAT IF THE POWER GOES OUT
ELECTRIC COMPANY I CONTRACTED FOR JUST HAD AN INVERTER GENERATOR IN THE VAN TO RUN THE SDS AFTER THEY CUT POWER
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@nugger Please do.
What the hell are you talking about? Shelf life?
Lithium Polymer batteries have 10x more energy density.
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@WandererUber THAN GASOLINE?