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Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 07:20:20 JST Tim Chambers
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The more I look at the podcasting data industry-wide, the more I think federated podcasts need to become a thing.
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https://www.listennotes.com/podcast-stats/
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  Podcast Stats: How many podcasts are there?
  
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  Podcast industry data through the lens of Listen Notes, the best podcast search engine and database.
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  Alex (mentallyalex@beige.party)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 07:23:46 JST Alex
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  @tchambers very interesting to see the genres broken down. I honestly expected more in the tech sectors.
  Definitely looks like th growth is so aggressive federating would be the smartest way forward.
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  Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 07:26:36 JST Tim Chambers
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  #Wordpress.com hosts 1,951 podcasts - those alone could become federated via the ActivityPub plugin.
  
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  Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 08:14:15 JST Tim Chambers
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  @natalie Yes, it’s half way there just being rss. Places like @Castopod create functionaly a single server that gives every new episode its own ActivityPub post and creates a unique ActivityPub account for each podcast.
  
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  Natalie ? (natalie@prismst.one)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 08:14:16 JST Natalie ?
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  @tchambers@indieweb.social do podcasts need to be fully on activitypub though? They're already just RSS feeds. Technically if someone is self-hosting their own podcast it's already kind of federated, right?
  
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  Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 08:46:52 JST Tim Chambers
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  It would build in federated comments about each episode, help discovery across the Fediverse and lessen dependence on Apple, Spotify, Google or centralized podcast servers, and all the content interactions with fans all federate to all platforms. This social feed could even be built into popular mobile apps, thus moving the conversation cross app.
  
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  Aaron Ross Powell ☸️ (arossp@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 08:46:53 JST Aaron Ross Powell ☸️
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  @tchambers @funkwhale @Castopod what would this offer over existing RSS tech?
  
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  Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 08:48:01 JST Tim Chambers
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  @jenniferplusplus @funkwhale @Castopod See: https://indieweb.social/@tchambers/111700345361100599
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    @arossp@mastodon.social @funkwhale@social.funkwhale.audio @Castopod@podlibre.social It would build in federated comments about each episode, help discovery across the Fediverse and lessen dependence on Apple, Spotify, Google or centralized podcast servers, and all the content interactions with fans all federate to all platforms. This social feed could even be built into popular mobile apps, thus moving the conversation cross app.
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  Jenniferplusplus (jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 08:48:02 JST Jenniferplusplus
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  @tchambers @funkwhale @Castopod I'm not sure I understand what would make this different than just having the RSS feed. Just that there would be an object mastodon understands?
  
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  Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 08:52:25 JST Tim Chambers
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  @funkwhale @Castopod Interesting discussion here on same topic: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/using-activitypub-for-podcast-comments-exploration/1909/10
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    Using ActivityPub for Podcast Comments (exploration)
    
    Here’s an update on this topic, we recently enabled ActivityPub based comments to be displayed and interacted with on https://podcastindex.org: It uses C2S to fetch comments (reusing here the https://www.npmjs.com/package/threadcap library) and the OStatus way mentioned in Represent endpoint for remote interaction to trigger remote interactions in the instance of the “interactor”. To avoid CORS issues, the comments must be fetched through the server instead of directly from the front end.
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  Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 08:58:20 JST Tim Chambers
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  And some more here: https://github.com/podStation/podStation/issues/304
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    Support Podcasting 2.0 ActivityPub comments · Issue #304 · podStation/podStation
    
    Specification I could not find a full spec for comments, but investigation of how it is being used by the Podcasting 2.0 podcast shows that it uses the (still experimental) tag podcast:socialIntera...
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  Otto (otto42@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 09:12:33 JST Otto
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  @misc @tchambers @arossp @funkwhale @Castopod You can discuss it all you want, the question is do the podcast's creators want to discuss it with you?
  Having the ability to reply to somebody because they posted a thing on the fediverse is not the same thing as having a discussion about it with other people. You can argue that it gives a single place to have the discussion, but that may not be the creator's intentions or desires.
  
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  Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 09:12:33 JST Tim Chambers
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  In the case of using @funkwhale or @Castopod it almost every use case it IS the author publishing directly to the Fediverse using that software.
  
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  Jesse Baer 🔥 (misc@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 09:12:34 JST Jesse Baer 🔥
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  @otto42 @tchambers @arossp @funkwhale @Castopod I strongly disagree - I think discussion of podcasts is a huge and untapped need. Constantly want to talk about an episode after I hear it. This was slightly viable in the Twitter era, when it was just accepted that everyone was on there, and new episodes usually had an associated tweet. Extremely hard now.
  
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  Otto (otto42@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 09:12:35 JST Otto
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  @tchambers @arossp @funkwhale @Castopod That is actually kind of an argument against them, because podcasts are very much a media broadcast type of environment, not one inviting comment, necessarily.
  Federation makes sense in a lot of discussion kind of systems, but a broadcast sort of mechanism that does not accept or desire comments doesn't really make sense in this environment. And I don't know a lot of podcast readers/listeners that have a built-in comment/feedback system for the podcast.
  
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  Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 09:13:26 JST Tim Chambers
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  That's cool! Shout when it is fully working!
  
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  Jan Ainali (ainali@social.coop)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 09:13:28 JST Jan Ainali
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  @tchambers I am experimenting with @wikipediapodden It is a self-hosted WordPress with ActivityPub activated. I haven't figured out how to get the audio file into the actual toots yet.
  
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  Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 20:37:17 JST Tim Chambers
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  More discussion on Fediverse dev on future podcast evolution https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/podcasting-2-0/id1584274529?i=1000634443099
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    ‎Podcasting 2.0: Episode 154: Fedified Blob on Apple Podcasts
    
    Show Podcasting 2.0, Ep Episode 154: Fedified Blob - Nov 10, 2023
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  Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 22:24:18 JST Tim Chambers
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  @funkwhale @Castopod @adam And here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/podcasting-2-0/id1584274529?i=1000640046103
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    ‎Podcasting 2.0: Episode 161: Cooking with Sterno on Apple Podcasts
    
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