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   mhoye (mhoye@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 12:35:33 JST mhoye

   I've recently discovered the "tie ring", as opposed to the tie clip or pin. It's interesting, but I have concerns, as one must have when trying on any new garment or accoutrement. What signals does the tie ring send, in general or in specific to certain types/styles? And more importantly: where would I go to learn about this? Is there a clothing-semiotics wiki or resource out there I could bring these questions?

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     mhoye (mhoye@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 12:35:31 JST mhoye

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     One hard problem of an internet full of memetic ideology is that if you're not very careful you can end up repeating, legitimizing and amplifying ideological arguments that _you don't even realize exist._ And one other place that has always been true is fashion. And the people who really know clothing know this.

     (Have you ever noticed how hard it is to find men's clothing these days, in colors that aren't already common in milspec camo? Gosh, that's crazy. I wonder if that means anything.)

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     Sentient Mortal (sentientmortal@freeradical.zone)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 22:08:23 JST Sentient Mortal

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     • kit 🍁

     @wlonk @mhoye Thank you for this. Deborah Tannen's piece still slaps 30 years later.

     https://academics.otc.edu/media/uploads/sites/2/2015/10/There-is-No-Unmarked-Women.pdf

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     kit 🍁 (wlonk@mastodon.transneptune.net)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 22:08:25 JST kit 🍁

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     @mhoye the concept of “marked” vs “unmarked” feels applicable here, especially in the phrase “there is an unmarked man; there is no unmarked woman.”

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     mhoye (mhoye@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 22:08:26 JST mhoye

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     Particularly among young men, particularly in the tech sector, one question that frequently goes unasked that I wish was asked routinely is: to whom is it useful that I believe this? Who do I serve, as I act on these beliefs? Are they on my side? Do I want to be on theirs?

     The same is true of the clothes we wear. This is a fact: all of us are cosplaying, but most of us don't interrogate that. Most of us don't even realize it.

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     Wendy Nather (wendynather@infosec.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 02:05:55 JST Wendy Nather

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     • Rocketman

     @mhoye @slothrop “Everyone in this room is wearing a uniform, and don’t kid yourselves.” — Frank Zappa