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🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 05:22:33 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

There needs to be a word for someone who's one level above vegan and refuses to eat anything that is or was living.

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  🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 05:25:19 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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  @black6_ I was thinking about if its even possible... should be possible in theory, in practice wouldnt be practical. A few miltivitamins and some lab grown protein, carbs, and fat and your good to go :)
  
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  Rugged Boatman Frank (black6_@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 05:25:20 JST Rugged Boatman Frank
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  @freemo dead
  
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  Louis Ingenthron (louisingenthron@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 05:25:26 JST Louis Ingenthron
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  @freemo There is: dead
  
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  🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 repeated this.
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  :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 (bonifartius@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 05:27:15 JST :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄
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  @freemo @black6_ well, those would be synthesized using oil which at some point long ago was something living :P
  
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  🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 05:28:27 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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  @bonifartius @black6_ Should be possible to synthesize oil from non-living base components. How you would make sure the atoms themselves never existing as part of life I dunno, but as long as you get it from a non-organic source it should be a fairly safe bet.
  
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  :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 (bonifartius@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 05:33:19 JST :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄
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  @freemo @black6_ well, mineral oil directly was something living some time back.. ;)
  maybe we need to capture an asteroid for this :P
  
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  🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 05:35:11 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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  Yea obviously for the idea to work mineral oil wouldnt work. Interesting mineral oil is mostly safe to eat but your body cant absorb it so its just a laxative. That said chemically you should be able to synthesize proper fat from just water and air.
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  🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 05:37:48 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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  @black6_ I mean yea, in practice its not really doable in any reasonable way... but with enough money and sterile base materials it should be possible... you would need pure (no bacteria) water and CO2 and a sterile place probably a few chemicals, and it could be done :)
  Reminds me of that time NileRed made the most chemically pure cookie ever made, evne the fat was synthasized. He said it was absolutely disgusting.
  
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  Rugged Boatman Frank (black6_@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 05:37:49 JST Rugged Boatman Frank
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  @freemo It's possible, but how far down do you go? Bacteria cover everything. It's an interesting thought experiment, but there's no way around extinguishing some form of life when eating.
  
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  ampbenzscientist@qoto.org's status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 05:43:49 JST AmpBenzScientist
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  @freemo I don't think it's possible because of our big brains. We all feed on death and it is delicious.
  
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  Peter Drake, he/him, LFHCfS 🔥 (peterdrake@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 06:02:58 JST Peter Drake, he/him, LFHCfS 🔥
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  @LouisIngenthron @freemo This may be as far as one can get: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jain_vegetarianism
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    Jain vegetarianism
    
    Jain vegetarianism is practised by the followers of Jain culture and philosophy. It is one of the most rigorous forms of spiritually motivated diet on the Indian subcontinent and beyond. The Jain cuisine is completely lacto-vegetarian and also excludes root and underground vegetables such as potato, garlic, onion etc., to prevent injuring small insects and microorganisms; and also to prevent the entire plant getting uprooted and killed. It is practised by Jain ascetics and lay Jains.The objections to the eating of meat, fish and eggs are based on the principle of non-violence (ahimsa, figuratively "non-injuring"). Every act by which a person directly or indirectly supports killing or injury is seen as act of violence (himsa), which creates harmful reaction karma. The aim of ahimsa is to prevent the accumulation of such karma. The extent to which this intention is put into effect varies greatly among Hindus, Buddhists and Jains. Jains believe nonviolence is the most essential...
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  :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 (bonifartius@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 07:02:34 JST :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄
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  @freemo @black6_ guess it won't kill you, but some of the organic compounds & heavy metals in there probably aren't really healthy as well :P
  of course you can, that's what plants do! :D
  
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  🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 07:05:27 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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  mineral oils is a distillate process. While I am sure it needs some additional cleaning for the stuff that is fit for humans, it shouldnt have any sort of heavy metals in it. Mercury is the only heavy metal that distills at any reasonable temperature but if that was present it would wind upin a different fraction than the mineral oil.
  But yea, regardless im sure there is some additional cleaning and/or processing for the mineral oil intended to be used for humans.
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  :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 (bonifartius@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 07:08:23 JST :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄
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  @freemo @black6_ ah, sure the distilled stuff for medicinal use and the like is probably pretty clean! )
  
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  🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 07:10:00 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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  All mineral oil is distilled, some (I dont know) may go through extra levels of cleaning. I do know that some is meant for human consumption, which should be fairly pure. What I dont know is how much cleaning the stuff for human consumption goes through compared to the normal distillate.
  But yea all mineral oil is a fractional distillate from the same process that produces gasoline (just a higher temperature fraction than gas)
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  @freemo @black6_ i think some confusion was because of a false friend, i thought about petroleum/crude oil because it's "Mineralöl" in german!
  
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  🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 07:15:06 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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  Ahh yes, crude and mineral are different in english. Mineral oil is similar to crude in thickness, but it is purified, so it is clear, and has all the lower fractional volatile stuff removed as well. Its usually used as a laxative, topically, or even a lubricant. It has no nutritional value though.
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  noëlifidian (nullifidian@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 07:26:30 JST noëlifidian
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  @freemo https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia
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    Inedia (Latin for 'fasting') or breatharianism () is the claimed ability for a person to live without consuming food, and in some cases water. It is a pseudoscientific practice, and several adherents of these practices have died from starvation or dehydration. Multiple cases where this practice was attempted have resulted in failure or death.Breatharians claim that food (and sometimes water) is not necessary for survival. The terms breatharianism or inedia may also be used when it is practised as a lifestyle in place of a usual diet. Scientific assessment Documented studies on the physiological effects of food restriction clearly show that fasting for extended periods leads to starvation, dehydration, and eventual death. In the absence of food intake, the body normally burns its own reserves of glycogen, body fat, and muscle. Breatharians claim that their bodies do not consume these reserves while fasting.Some breatharians have submitted themselves to medical testing, including a hospital's observation of Indian mystic Prahlad Jani appearing...
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  :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 (bonifartius@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 08:45:17 JST :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄
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  @freemo @black6_ i looked it up, mineral oil is "Weissöl" in german :)
  
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