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   feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 05:26:24 JST feld
   The current Fedi discourse around threads is something like "But if you federate with Threads then those users will have no incentive to learn how the Fediverse works and join our side"
   
   to which I contend that if you think bludgeoning people with information they don't want to learn and shouldn't need to learn will get them to join your revolution, you're doing it wrong.
   
   Most people just want to use computers, not learn how they work. Figure out how to make them want to use your software without needing to learn any new about the underlying technology. They'll never be as autistic as you.
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 05:34:20 JST Sexy Moon

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     @feld profit-centered ad-based networks have adverse motivations to a free network. that is potentially a good reason for cutting them off, because they are run by abusers that are guaranteed working against your goals
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 05:35:32 JST feld

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     • Sexy Moon
     @Moon but I'm not going to be receiving any ads and they're not going to be profiting off my shitposts, so I don't really care
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 05:37:15 JST Sexy Moon

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     @feld I unblocked threads but threads is blocking us pre-emptively because we're not good for putting ads on top-of :-)
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 05:38:41 JST feld

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     • Raphael Lullis
     @raphael it's true. People are using chat apps because they are looking for one of the following:
     
     - fun
     - friends
     - family
     - fucking
     
     If your platform is not helping them with those goals, they have no use for you.
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     Raphael Lullis (raphael@mastodon.communick.com)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 05:38:42 JST Raphael Lullis

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     @feld It's a pity that jwz retracted his "how is this going to get a 20-year old laid?" piece, because to the absolute majority of people this is the only real decision factor when choosing anything related to technology.

     How much of Apple's marketshare is determined by the "Don't that men that use Android because that means they are too poor to buy an iPhone" meme?

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 05:47:45 JST Sexy Moon

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     • Raphael Lullis
     @raphael @feld He didn't retract it because it's untrue, he retracted it because people he desperately seeks the approval of thought it was "icky" to say out loud.
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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 07:06:19 JST Alex Gleason

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     • Sexy Moon
     @Moon @feld Threads is blocking SPC now?
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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 07:11:33 JST Alex Gleason

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     • Red
     @redneonglow @feld @Moon https://soapbox.pub/blog/threads-server-blocking/
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     Red (redneonglow@bae.st)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 07:11:34 JST Red

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     @alex @feld @Moon How do you tell what instances Threads blocks?
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     thegreatape (thegreatape@thechimp.zone)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 07:28:59 JST thegreatape

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     • Red
     @alex @redneonglow @feld @Moon According to this I'm still blocked too. Which is just too crazy of a thing for me to wrap my head around, I'm literally one guy running his own instance. Would it be possible for them to be working on an allow list styled federation (IDK If that makes sense sorry) instead of deny list? They have to be doing that or just using the big blocklists other people put together, I'm on those.
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 07:33:19 JST Sexy Moon

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     • Red
     @alex @redneonglow @feld we weren't blocked but at some point they went ahead and blocked us
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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 08:45:28 JST Alex Gleason

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     • Red
     @Moon @redneonglow @feld Did you check your logs for `facebookexternalua`? I'm unable to fetch some Threads content from that endpoint anymore as well, but it's pinging back with `facebookexternalua` still. This is different from what I've seen before.
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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 08:46:50 JST Alex Gleason

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     @Moon @redneonglow @feld Still works on Spinster. Makes me think they are in fact blocking my domain but still hitting with their user agent.
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 08:47:58 JST Sexy Moon

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     • Red
     @alex @redneonglow @feld zero recent entries.
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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 08:48:37 JST Alex Gleason

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     • Red
     @Moon @redneonglow @feld I think you are blocked.
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 08:49:45 JST Sexy Moon

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     • Red
     @alex @redneonglow @feld :akko_fistup:
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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 08:52:45 JST Alex Gleason

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     @Moon @redneonglow @feld @mint I wonder if we can track Threads blocks on FBA somehow. It would need to be user-reported probably.
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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 08:58:12 JST Alex Gleason

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     • Red
     @Moon @redneonglow @feld @mint I'm experiencing weird behavior on my server. Can't fetch them, but the facebookexternalua does ping back. Media proxy can't serve their images. I can fetch data for their actors but not their posts. No other server is like this. I wonder if they read my blog. 🤣
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 08:59:18 JST feld

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     • thegreatape
     @thegreatape @alex @redneonglow @Moon I appear to be blocked and if I try to manually fetch an object it gives me a 429 lol
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 09:02:32 JST Sexy Moon

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     • Red
     @alex @redneonglow @feld @mint I feel like you couldn't make it act that weird on purpose, maybe they are a super small team and aren't even getting devops help
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 09:05:21 JST feld

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     • Red
     @alex @Moon @redneonglow I have never seen that user agent but my my logs don't go back super far
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 09:05:52 JST Sexy Moon

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     • Red
     @feld @redneonglow @alex we weren't blocked at first but we also didn't have the outbox on internal fetch user. fixed it really quick but it didn't matter.
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