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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 03:37:03 JST

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> malenfant.net has blocked the following instances:
> wagesofsinisdeath.com with unspecified reason

malenfant.net is now safe from a joke instance that existed for less than one month and was gone years before this instance existed.

When Levi was figuring out which domain to get, I suggested lotswife.moe, because she became a pillar of salt. So he gets wagesofsinisdeath.com and it looks like he was correct because years after it gets taken over by domain squatters, the domain alone still terrifies mastodongs.
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@p @fba I remember one of my old discord servers having as a channel topic something like "today's sarcasm is tomorrow's sincerity, the wages of sin are death"

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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 03:47:05 JST

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> "today's sarcasm is tomorrow's sincerity, the wages of sin are death"

This is mysterious.

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@p @fba commonfilth fan tradcath larper esque

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@Hyolobrika @p @fba what? that's not what it means at all. "today's sarcasm" (the 'ironic' zeitgeist preparing $CURRENT_THING) "is tomorrow's sincerity" (such views become normalized as a consequence of people forgetting the context in which they were initially proposed) "wages of sin are death" (such practices are ultimately destructive to those involved and hasten their own fall from grace)

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Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 03:56:38 JST

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Anyway, it's not that mysterious to me.

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Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 03:56:40 JST

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"Sincere" meaning having an actual effect in the real world.

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Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 03:56:41 JST

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"Today's sarcasm" meaning far-rightoid "jokes", I would usually assume.
If it ever becomes sincere, I will become murderous (more than usual, I mean).

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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 04:12:10 JST

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> I would usually assume.

Well, anyone can guess.

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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 04:30:09 JST

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@allison @Hyolobrika @fba That is what it sounded like.

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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 04:42:15 JST

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You know, on this topic, I thought I'd have a look at https://fba.ryona.agency/?domain=wagesofsinisdeath.com and 251 instances block that domain. journa.host (which came into being after wagesofsinisdeath.com ceased existing forever) has been careful to remove the media from wagesofsinisdeath.com.

And then there are some notes, right, and one of them says "unified_tier1_blocklist" and that got me wondering. It's actually worse than that: it's in Oliphant's allegedly curated "Tier 0" list: https://codeberg.org/oliphant/blocklists/src/branch/main/blocklists/tier0.csv . That domain was dead before oliphant.social existed. It's also on the other blocklist, https://seirdy.one/pb/tier0.csv , also "Tier 0". Per https://seirdy.one/posts/2023/05/02/fediverse-blocklists/ :

> I totally get resistance to blindly importing blocklists; I don’t actually feel comfortable going the “import and forget” route myself! The first couple hundred entries of the pleroma.envs.net blocklist started with a few imports, but all domains have since been manually reviewed. For admins who don’t feel comfortable “outsourcing” their moderation to blocklist authors: I generally see pre-made blocklists as a starting point.

"Starting point", my ass. It is obviously a lie that anyone has reviewed this list: not only have they not reviewed, but zero people have verified the list. You see people make weird shit up but in this case, people copy these lists around, caution everyone really strongly to verify the lists before importing them, and nobody does that, no one is verifying anything. Pointing this out is grounds for being included in these instance's blocklists, and that propagates up the chain to these allegedly curated lists that are collections of other instances' lists, and this provides an incentive to not question the lists.

Credit where it's due: at least one blocklist was retracted because the originator recognized this problem: https://joinfediverse.wiki/FediBlock . As for the rest of them, here are some left-wing people that would rather deal with sharecropping on a platform owned by their nemesis Elon Musk than with the lunatics that do this kind of thing.
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(mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 04:47:02 JST

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@p @fba Gotta give a credit to Kumar when it's due.
https://fba.ryona.agency/?domain=000delete.this.line.if.you.have.read.the.documentation.on.seirdy.one
That part is pretty funny.

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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 12:42:41 JST

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@mint @fba Ha, I'd seen that one but he also now provides a second list that unblocks all the canary domains so that you can just import them both. If someone is carelessly importing all of his CSVs, then they will end up unblocking the canaries.

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FreedoingVlad (freedoingvlad@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 12:45:31 JST

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@p @fba I don't now much of the fediverse and usually stay away from related discussions. But it has always concerned be that there seems to be no transparency. I consider it a danger.

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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 12:49:23 JST

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> But it has always concerned be that there seems to be no transparency. I consider it a danger.

I think it's a danger that ends up doing collateral damage. We'll see how it plays out.

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FreedoingVlad (freedoingvlad@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 23:38:41 JST

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