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   Drew DeVault (drewdevault@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 04:21:31 JST Drew DeVault

   Will some vendor just do ARM upstream properly already gdi

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     Drew DeVault (drewdevault@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 04:21:44 JST Drew DeVault

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     Your shiny new ARM device needs to have "perfect mainline Linux support" on the spec sheet or I ain't buyin it, I will nae be tricked again

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 04:27:32 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @drewdevault Meanwhile I'd nearly put something like 9front as requirement because while it's nice to have Linux support it would still be vendor-locking if documentation is under NDA.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 06:09:52 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @lispi314 @drewdevault Well at the same time it's still pretty nice to be able to use the hardware a bit, it's just borderline proprietary.
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     LisPi (lispi314@udongein.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 06:09:53 JST LisPi

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     @lanodan @drewdevault Adding the contributions to the kernel without adequate documentation should just be forbidden.
     
     Either you document your code properly (fuck the NDA) or you get fucked.
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     Drew DeVault (drewdevault@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 06:11:22 JST Drew DeVault

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     Sad thing is that the target audience ranges from "wants to run retropi" to "wants to plug some LEDs into the GPIO pins" to "wants to run kodi on their TV" and never really "wants to incorporate this into any kind of long-term production system"

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     Drew DeVault (drewdevault@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 06:11:24 JST Drew DeVault

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     If every feature advertised on the product page does not work with mainline free software (be it Linux, Mesa, u-Boot, whatever), my wallet is staying firmly secured in my pocket, I'm tired of this crap

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     Drew DeVault (drewdevault@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 06:11:24 JST Drew DeVault

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     The thing about these shitty downstream SoC kernels and such is that I really just cannot maintain a system based on this crap, and whatever debian or ubuntu junk they shovel onto a microSD card is not going to meet any of my needs in terms of use-cases, so this shit is just worthless to me if it's not upstream. Complete waste of time and money every time

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 06:21:44 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @drewdevault Well there's some targeted at production systems but they're really rare.
     Previous dayjob used Gateworks boards and they document mainline support right on their open-access wiki but in terms of distro support it quite sucks (like I don't get why they don't upstream their buildroot defconfig).