Adriano
@nicholas_saunders @TonyStark @dukepaaron
Or, they could be making the point that every one of these statements, while true, help the narrative of the state of Israel, for free, way past the point where they should be getting this kind of rhetorical help. Yes, antisemitism rises. Also yes, the IDF is massacring.
nicholas_saunders
.. we have a problem with genocide..
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Lovely rhetoric accusing #stephenfry of favoring #genocide implicitly. Pretty sure he's not a fan.
What is this? Ideological bullying?
It's not quite
When did you stop beating your wife?
But a very similar form. Somewhat Orwellian in that the language is controlling.
Tony, Pretty Much
@dukepaaron “Yet another said: ‘We don’t have a problem with Jews, Stephen Fry, we have a problem with genocide & you know it. When it was Jews who were the targets of genocide, this country gave half a million lives fighting the evils of Nazism. Now we fight to protect Palestinians. It’s what we do. Same rules.’”
As with almost every one of these types of comments, this implies if not outright claims all Jews are all responsible for anything happening to Palestinians. Not quite.
ראָב עפֿן
"Stephen Fry issued a heartfelt #Christmas message Monday, calling out the surge in #antisemitism in the #UnitedKingdom and encouraging the country’s #Jews to take pride in their heritage — and swiftly sparked a torrent of online trolling and backlash, with many accusing the actor and writer of playing the victim instead of shining light on the plight of #Palestinians in war-torn #Gaza."
Fry is figuring out he should have kept it a secret. Sorry bud. Welcome to the thunderdome.
Robbie Norlyn, Author 👾
@adriano It’s really interesting how you rant a lot about something you obviously don’t know about in order to shield yourself against being accused of antisemitism.
Also, strawmen strawmen everywhere! At no point did I say I approve of how Israel has conducted this war but your language indicates to me that you haven’t followed anything but a Hamas generated narrative. I have never seen such outrage over such a small percentage of population dying in a war that were given every chance to leave.
Adriano
@robertnorlyn It's possible to be appalled at the massacre Hamas unleashed and also think that the IDF passed that point weeks ago and *STILL WANT TO BE SEEN AS THE GOOD GUYS WHO DO NO WRONG*.
Well, maybe not possible for you. But it is.
Adriano
@robertnorlyn Do you really believe the public statements of a famous actor occur in a vacuum, and have zero impact? Do you really think people that disagree, more or less vehemently with Stephen Fry, are all deluded thinking Hamas is a freedom movement?
I don't know, man. I don't know what you're confused about. I mean, it's a lot. I don't know where to begin. Let's see: it's possible to think Hamas is a terrorist group and also think that the IDF is massacring people.
Adriano
@robertnorlyn
Really, dude? Really? You haven't read anything but praise for the IDF these days? Nothing at all about white phosphorus? No? Shooting of churches? No bells?
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