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   kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2023 09:00:15 JST kaia
   How it started in 2019:
   Elon Musk: Any other car than a Tesla in 3 years will be like ‘owning a horse’
   
   How it's going end of 2023:
   Elon Musk's Tesla recalls two million cars in US over Autopilot defect
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     :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans: (allison@hidamari.apartments)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2023 09:01:19 JST :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans:

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     @kaia and I've still never seen a cybertruck in my life
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2023 09:03:51 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @kaia Me: A well trained horse is close enough to an autopilot car.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2023 09:07:13 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @allison @kaia I've seen few Teslas but those are really rare, like more rare than 70~80's cars.
     Cybertruck? I'd wonder if they're even legal in France.
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2023 09:07:22 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @kaia have you checked what the defect is?
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2023 09:07:42 JST feld

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     @kaia He wasn't wrong -- the Tesla recalls are futuristic because you don't do anything but install an update. No more scheduling appointments with the dealer months in advance!
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     :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans: (allison@hidamari.apartments)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2023 09:08:23 JST :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans:

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     @lanodan @kaia I see a lot of Teslas where I am due to squarely being in automobile alley among rich virtue signallers but still not a single cybertruck
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2023 09:11:40 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @allison @kaia Rich virtue signalers I don't think so but I do live right next to a bunch of auto sellers (like at least 5 shops within walking distance) and none of those seem to sell Teslas.
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     :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans: (allison@hidamari.apartments)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2023 09:12:21 JST :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans:

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     @lanodan @kaia You're in France, it's different. They're everywhere in burgerstan.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2023 09:12:42 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • sll - Macron destitution.
     @sll @kaia Depends, like a horse doesn't drives into obstacles like walls.
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     sll - Macron destitution. (sll@pouet.chapril.org)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2023 09:12:44 JST sll - Macron destitution.

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     @lanodan not as reliable tho @kaia

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     @lanodan @kaia (also Tesla deliberately eschews dealers in favor of direct orders from the company)
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     A Light Shining in Darkness (fzer0@nerdculture.de)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2023 09:13:22 JST A Light Shining in Darkness

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     The Tesla horse

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2023 09:14:32 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @allison @kaia Ah… so I guess they're lost into the horribly messy industrial areas of my city, meaning you'd need a car to go there or enjoy really slow and infrequent buses, lol.
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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2023 09:16:06 JST kaia

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     @lain
     > NHTSA reported that it has found 16 crashes into emergency vehicles and trucks with warning signs, causing 15 injuries and one death.
     
     https://apnews.com/article/technology-health-business-8fc617fc492847d15bf253558ed1f925
     
     https://apnews.com/article/tesla-autopilot-recall-driver-monitoring-system-8060508627a34e6af889feca46eb3002
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     sll - Macron destitution. (sll@pouet.chapril.org)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2023 09:18:35 JST sll - Macron destitution.

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     @lanodan indeed! I phrased it poorly... wouldn't exchange my old mare for any brand new Tesla @kaia

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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2023 09:25:41 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @kaia gracias, and I shouldn't be obtuse. The "recall" is a software update OTA. The "problem" is people using devices explicitly meant to circumvent Tesla safety mechanisms while using autonomous driving (fake hands that grab the steering wheel). Relative safety numbers between human driving and automatic driving are pretty much never talked about, even though that would be the statistic to know.
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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2023 09:32:32 JST kaia

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     @lain that makes sense. interesting arguments on how safe it must be to beat a human, seeing Tesla already claims it's safer than humans.
     
     I'm not competent to speak on it. my only Tesla news are from Thunderf00t with a strong anti-Tesla-bias, and from Dr. KnowItAll who is an amusing Tesla-stan.
     
     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoFxTTC-tm0
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2023 09:33:54 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @kaia safety concerns BUSTED
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     Christmas Man (christmas_man@thebag.social)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2023 09:59:34 JST Christmas Man

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     • on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
     I never use autopilot, only the speed sensitive cruise control, but there are warnings and alerts at every step of the way to enable it and use it. If the steering wheel input conflicts too much with what the cameras/sensors are telling the autopilot, then an alert sounds and the dash flashes a warning that autopilot/cruise control is disabled until you stop the vehicle and park. When I bought some new fitted floor mats for mine, I saw the little steering wheel weights that are supposed to simulate a hand resting on the wheel in the "people also bought" section of Amazon.
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