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    Daigoro Toyama (daihard@infosec.town)'s status on Sunday, 24-Dec-2023 17:06:55 JST Daigoro Toyama Daigoro Toyama
    • Michael Downey 🧢
    • Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)

    @tokyo_0 @downey Some people are also defending this. #smh

    In conversation Sunday, 24-Dec-2023 17:06:55 JST from gnusocial.jp permalink
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      mxk (mxk@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 24-Dec-2023 17:25:53 JST mxk mxk
      • Michael Downey 🧢
      • Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)

      @tokyo_0 @daihard @downey No, it explicitly was never intended as suspended.
      Limited means, the reach of this account gets limited to those, who explicitly want to see the account.
      They can no longer annoy others with reply spam/follow spam/hashtag spam. Who still *wants* to see this account, can do so, using following.
      Preventing boosts would rather be an action regarding their followers, which seems strange in this context.

      In conversation Sunday, 24-Dec-2023 17:25:53 JST permalink
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      mxk (mxk@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 24-Dec-2023 17:42:57 JST mxk mxk
      • Michael Downey 🧢
      • Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)

      @tokyo_0 @daihard @downey yes, what you are thinking of, is putting everyone from this instance in the limited state.
      And IMHO this is exactly the right thing in this case. If there are 1000 new spam accounts, everyone on your instance probably will never see them. But the interactions with existing accounts, your users are following, can continue as they did before.
      Setting whole instances to limited as such works as a workaround, while the mods are asleep.

      In conversation Sunday, 24-Dec-2023 17:42:57 JST permalink
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      Tokyo Outsider (337ppm) (tokyo_0@mas.to)'s status on Sunday, 24-Dec-2023 17:43:24 JST Tokyo Outsider (337ppm) Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)
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      • Michael Downey 🧢
      • mxk

      @mxk The only justification I can think of to let posts from a limited instance remain visible in some way when boosted by follows is so people following can see that boosted content and either recognise that there's a problem, if it's being flagged as a problem, or realise the person they follow is into some crazy shit and decide not to follow them any more. I think those boosted posts from limited instances should appear as though filtered, if they have to appear at all. @daihard @downey

      In conversation Sunday, 24-Dec-2023 17:43:24 JST permalink
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      mxk (mxk@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 24-Dec-2023 18:03:28 JST mxk mxk
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      • Michael Downey 🧢
      • Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)

      @tokyo_0 @daihard @downey so, on my home instance, the big official instances frequently get limited, due to spam attacks.
      But those big instances also host a huge amount of legitimate users myself and others here *want* to see.
      No, the current behavior really is, what I would want to happen. If the insurance is really considered malicious as a whole, then turning it to limited is not the intended tool.
      I get that maybe a suspension, as a tool between limited and blocked could be useful.

      In conversation Sunday, 24-Dec-2023 18:03:28 JST permalink
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      ArtBear (artbear@mastodonapp.uk)'s status on Sunday, 24-Dec-2023 18:41:49 JST ArtBear ArtBear
      • Michael Downey 🧢
      • Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)
      • mxk

      @tokyo_0 @mxk @daihard @downey
      Suspend should be called sever.
      That's what happens to the follow relationships. Severed.

      In conversation Sunday, 24-Dec-2023 18:41:49 JST permalink
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      Daigoro Toyama (daihard@infosec.town)'s status on Monday, 25-Dec-2023 11:06:27 JST Daigoro Toyama Daigoro Toyama
      • Michael Downey 🧢
      • ArtBear
      • Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)
      • mxk

      @tokyo_0 @ArtBear @mxk @downey I've finally caught up. So what we're really talking about is "silenced" (or muted?) accounts, whose posts you don't see directly but will still appear on your timeline if boosted by someone you follow. OTOH, if you block a user, then the posts by that blocked account will NOT show up on your timeline no matter what. Am I getting it right?

      In conversation Monday, 25-Dec-2023 11:06:27 JST permalink

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