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   iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 23-Dec-2023 02:40:03 JST iced depresso
   matroska is actually possibly cursed when you read the specs.
   
   most of this stuff is unused in practice. it has like an entire hierarchical chapter system as well as a layered tagging system. its entirely legal to store an entire record or CD in a single MKA file, chaptered to each section of a song, and have them tagged like "ah yes that is the B2 part of this song's ABBA song structure :blobcatwine:"
   
   does anyone ever do this? lmao no they use cue files. which i promptly delete and reencode to flac/opus files. :blobcatgooglybadumtss:
   
   you can also basically jam the whole damn nfo file in to those tags, or literally via attachments, to the point where its actually legal (and possibly useful) matroska to just slap all the episode data in to each file and not have those weird nfos and shit lying around.
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     volkris@qoto.org's status on Saturday, 23-Dec-2023 02:52:28 JST volkris

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     @icedquinn I’ve tinkered with those features over the years, but in general library management tools never made the workflow convenient enough to justify the extra steps for me.

     It has some powerful potential, but doesn’t seem like it had enough to overcome the inertia of other container formats that worked well enough.

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 23-Dec-2023 02:53:46 JST iced depresso

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     @volkris matroska was quite prevalent in the piracy scenes. i still see them from time to time with anime.
     
     i think MP4 inertia is because big tech pushes it hard, so media players support it, which leads to being able to download and drop it on an iphone or some set top box share and it works.
     
     matroska is like opus in that all the decent stuff does support it just fine. it's just not the lowest common denominator.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 23-Dec-2023 02:54:17 JST iced depresso

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     @volkris one little known thing is that MKV is very much alive, but Google colonized it and renamed it to "WebM."
     
     A WebM is literally just a matroska file that they stripped all the codec support from.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 23-Dec-2023 02:57:54 JST iced depresso

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     @slash i don't own dvds to rip so i just get whats out there :blobcatpain:
     
     most of these capabilities aren't actually used. yt-dlp can embed youtube chapters to mkv, including sponsorblock segments, but you have to ask it to. most of the players understand simple chapters. i think VLC supports DVD chapters in DVD files but i'm not sure if it understands them through matroska.
     
     (MKV does support pulling a DVD with the menus and all special features but nobody actually does it)
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     \\ (slash@cdrom.tokyo)'s status on Saturday, 23-Dec-2023 02:57:55 JST \\

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     @icedquinn I rip my movie and TV collection to them. All those weird features are very useful for a dual language show with 20 subtitle tracks straight off a bluray.

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 23-Dec-2023 03:01:18 JST iced depresso

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     @slash its kind of a shame that there are no archival versions of these shows. i realize they would be large but to my knowledge nobody is storing some of these things in like, ffv1+flac+mkv or cineform+flac+mkv, or lossless h264+flac+mkv, which leads us to a situation where some shows are so old they are still in xvid if they can be found at all.
     
     battlestar galactica and totally spies come to mind. i'd have to recheck but i think starblazers was packaged that way too.
     
     though there is also the eternal cope of 'why re-encode stuff to new formats just buy more hard drives' so idk
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 23-Dec-2023 03:02:20 JST iced depresso

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     @slash yup. xvid+mp3 in an avi file. :blobcatonfire:
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 23-Dec-2023 03:04:03 JST iced depresso

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     @slash ah yes. minimum effort publications. :blabcat:
     
     i know that basic chapters work. i've never tried to make a menu by hand, or the advanced chapters.
     
     matroska absolutely supports nesting chapters. i don't know what mpv or vlc do if you try to play them though.
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     \\ (slash@cdrom.tokyo)'s status on Saturday, 23-Dec-2023 03:04:05 JST \\

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     @icedquinn Chapters definitely work in my rips. What I rip with allows me to select specific video files so it pulls menu loops and the like separately, but in most cases everything is nicely nestled in the matroska file when it comes to the core content. The very annoying exception is when I have a disk I’ve ripped from a tv series that they haven’t bothered to separate the episodes. I’ve had to split files into separate matroska by chapter count because the bluray is designed to just play a whole season before and it is such a pain in the ass.

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 23-Dec-2023 03:07:29 JST iced depresso

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     > ChapterSkipType
     oh lol you can mark chapters with skip tags. i don't think i've ever seen a player even acknowledge that existed.
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     \\ (slash@cdrom.tokyo)'s status on Saturday, 23-Dec-2023 03:07:30 JST \\

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     @icedquinn this is why I source the blurays of stuff I like. I don’t want web stream bitrates, I want a solid rip of the bluray in the best possible form, even if it’s a show nobody seems to care about now like Fringe or Caprica.

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 23-Dec-2023 03:09:56 JST iced depresso

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     Bluray: you can mark this as unskippable so people have to watch more ads!
     Matroska: :blobcatwine: you can mark this as a credits scene or intro so people don't have to watch that shit
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     \\ (slash@cdrom.tokyo)'s status on Saturday, 23-Dec-2023 03:09:57 JST \\

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     @icedquinn that seems pretty useful considering all the games blurays seem to play with useless title markers

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 23-Dec-2023 03:12:47 JST iced depresso

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     @slash i don't have enough of an income to buy media or i might do it. although ripping the DRM and encoding is pretty onerous these days
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 23-Dec-2023 03:13:13 JST iced depresso

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     @slash i want an environment where i just pay the media royalty and they tell me its ok to download a matroska of everything :blabcat:
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 23-Dec-2023 03:30:21 JST iced depresso

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     @slash quickpar is your friend. its prevalent on usenet due to unreliable federation, but it lets you generate erasure codes. you can bloat the size of your media by say 10% and in exchange as long as less than 10% of *any* of that bundle is lost to bitrot, the erasure codes will save it.
     
     i should actually take my own advice on there. i don't use it, but i've also probably never pulled the cold storage drive out to retrieve anything old i cared about :ablobcatohlookaround:
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     \\ (slash@cdrom.tokyo)'s status on Saturday, 23-Dec-2023 03:30:23 JST \\

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     @icedquinn I built up a lot of what I’ve got mostly through bins at places like FYE trying hard to get rid of their blurays and thrift shops that have large DVD/bluray racks with stuff that gets overlooked. It’s a very record crate style experience, which started from holding a movie night for friends years ago. At this point I get more bespoke stuff off amazon but that’s when it’s something specific I’m interested in, and it’s mainly just to rip it and throw the disk into a binder. It’s easy to get a libredrive at this point so even UHD bluray is pretty simple to pull, just time and space consuming.

     What I am running into now is, as a result of many last minute attempts to save failing drives, some of those files are showing just how lossy they can get, with weird keyframe issues throughout. I just recently realized that one of the first TV series I did this with is suffering this issue and might have to go digging to find the original source discs and rerip. The bigger the file, the more likely it gets caught up in bad disk sectors in times like that, so the recent issue I had with a bad Toshiba drive means I have to rip a large 5 season series over again for the same reason (and that’s one of the infuriating ones, labeling those episodes the first time took a solid week since they were tracked on the disc non sequentially and the first season was all one video file per disc).