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    Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 00:53:35 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell

    Hey Minnesota: it’s time to mask up (and get your vax up to date, ffs).

    A lot of “COVID numbers surging!!!!!” posts cross my TL that I don’t boost because:

    1. they seem to be based on a transient fluctuation in wastewater data (which is very noisy),

    2. they seem to be based on a data processing error (more downthread), or

    3. I can’t see the putative surge in the data at all.

    This appears not to be one of those cases. A Dec wave is underway.

    https://umn.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/fd0350c812334c5f9733ca5b6186db0d

    #MN #MSP #MinneMasto

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    In conversation Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 00:53:35 JST from hachyderm.io permalink

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 01:05:21 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      What am I seeing in that graph that makes me say this?

      COVID wastewater data is •wildly• noisy, which makes it hard to read. It’s full of huge week-to-week fluctuations that look utterly apocalyptic, and appear to mean…nothing.

      I really, really doubt, for example, that COVID cases in the entire state of MN magically spiked •and then receded• by a factor of ~5x over a period of ~2 weeks last May. Look at the yellow line. Whatever that’s showing, I doubt it’s disease trajectory.

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 01:07:07 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      What I’m seeing that makes me say “This is a wave, not a data artifact” is the consistency of the larger curve shape. The consistency of the larger curve here is, as they say, not attributable to chance.

      Here’s that data source again: https://umn.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/fd0350c812334c5f9733ca5b6186db0d

      This is just “eyeball data science” here, no publishable results — but sufficient to make some reasonable decisions about my own behavior.

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 01:19:16 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      I seem to be almost alone in the world in thinking that I should change my behavior in response to changing COVID conditions. People mostly seem to be either (1) pretending COVID is over and/or can’t hurt them or anyone else, or (2) maintaining maximal hermetic isolation.

      Here’s the thing: the odds of a random person having COVID can vary 20x or more over time. That’s “driving with or without a seatbelt” kind of difference — just from time passing.

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 01:27:32 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      AFAICT, changes over time in population COVID prevalence are of the same general magnitude of protection as •masking and vaccination•!

      Maximal isolation comes with costs. I like seeing my friends. I like being out in my community. But…long COVID is awful! I’m at risk! What to do?

      Simply changing the •timing• of what I do when is a significant layer of protection. And I find knowing that I won't •always• be at maximum is psychologically helpful when I am taking more stringent precautions.

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 01:28:53 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      So: if you’re one of the people who’s willing to adjust their behavior based on changing conditions and new information, if you’re not pretending COVID is over but you’re not always at maximum, seems like now is a good time to dial up the caution.

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 01:33:29 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      As promised, addendum about data processing errors:

      Here is a wonderful, excellent effort to aggregate national COVID wastewater numbers in a single site: https://www.cdc.gov/nwss/rv/COVID19-nationaltrend.html

      BUT! Beware that gray-shaded preliminary data region to the right of their graph. It regularly shows •ridiculous• spikes — a 20x increase in one week for MN at one point! — and those spikes keep disappearing when the data isn’t preliminary.

      That’s not disease. That’s some kind of data processing quirk.

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 01:37:21 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      Paul’s advice, if you want it:

      •Do• use the CDC’s wastewater site for spotting trends at large scales of time and geography.

      Do •not• treat the gray region as good data (for now, anyway).

      Do •not• use that site to spot recent spikes in your area. Find your local wastewater data.

      –––

      Stay safe out there, everyone. Good luck to you — including the luck we make with our choices, and the luck we don’t.

      /end

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 02:03:08 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      @ttpphd
      THEM: [looking at COVID numbers] What is this shit?

      ME: Yes, correct

      In conversation Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 02:03:08 JST permalink
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      T. T. Perry (ttpphd@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 02:03:09 JST T. T. Perry T. T. Perry
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      @inthehands

      I'm a big poop truther.

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 02:20:16 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • dimsumthinking

      @dimsumthinking Same.

      In conversation Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 02:20:16 JST permalink
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      dimsumthinking (dimsumthinking@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 02:20:18 JST dimsumthinking dimsumthinking
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      @inthehands there are those of us in between who take reasonable precautions (masking and limiting being around crowds indoors).

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      fulanigirl@blacktwitter.io's status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 02:21:30 JST fulanigirl fulanigirl
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      @inthehands There is also the People's CDC, which tracks waste water and hospitalizations. You can search for your local area. https://peoplescdc.org/

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 02:21:35 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      @fulanigirl Great resource!

      In conversation Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 02:21:35 JST permalink

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