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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 11:38:05 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@sysrq @pernia @allison @cvnt @lanodan Wait, is he asking if it's possible to use venti as a backup server, or if *he* can use it as a backup server? -
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 12:18:53 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@pernia @allison @cvnt @lanodan @sysrq cwfs does not use venti. You can still vac/unvac. -
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þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 12:18:54 JST þernia
@p @cvnt @allison @sysrq @lanodan i'm saying like. if i isntall 9front using cwfs (or fossil or hjfs or whatever), and then i want to switch to ori's gefs (https://orib.dev/gefs.html), if i can do that while keeping a venti server that i had set up previously -
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 12:55:23 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@pernia @allison @cvnt @lanodan @sysrq The usage is intended to be like tar, so it does directory trees. In conversation permalink -
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þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 12:55:25 JST þernia
@p @cvnt @allison @sysrq @lanodan vac and unvac are programs to shove and unshove data into and from a venti, correct? In conversation permalink -
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:41:59 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@pernia @allison @cvnt @lanodan @sysrq The use-case (which is discussed in the papers, which you should read because this is kind of like asking if it is raining instead of looking out the window) is that it should be able to replace tar. In conversation permalink -
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þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:42:00 JST þernia
@p @cvnt @allison @sysrq @lanodan woah. does it also save metadata? say if i shove / into venti, and unshove it, will it be written back neatly or will i get a bunch of permission errors In conversation permalink -
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:45:39 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@pernia @allison @cvnt @lanodan @sysrq It looks long but is not because it has a lot of diagrams: http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/venti/ . In conversation permalink Attachments
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cvnt (cvnt@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 14:44:02 JST cvnt
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I hate the things you say so much.In conversation permalink -
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þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 14:44:03 JST þernia
@p @cvnt @allison @sysrq @lanodan holy hell. is there like, a tiktok of this i can watch. this is mostly words. no wonder nobody uses plan9
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Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 14:44:44 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
@cvnt @pernia @p @allison @sysrq pernia being fucking pernia as usual. In conversation permalink pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: likes this. -
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 15:01:14 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@pernia @allison @cvnt @lanodan @sysrq :bigbosssalute:
> Vac is an application for storing a collection of files and directories as a single object, similar in functionality to the utilities tar and zip. With vac, the contents of the selected files are stored as a tree of blocks on a Venti server. The root fingerprint for this tree is written to a vac archive file specified by the user, which consists of an ASCII representation of the 20 byte root fingerprint plus a fixed header string, and is always 45 bytes long. A corresponding program, called unvac, enables the user to restore files from a vac archive. Naturally, unvac requires access to the Venti server that contains the actual data, but in most situations this is transparent.
The idea is that the userspace parts replace tar.
There's some about fossil in that one, and then there's fossil here: http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/fossil/ .
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बुद्धीविनाषक् भेड़ मीपर् [Meeper] (meeper@udongein.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 15:04:21 JST बुद्धीविनाषक् भेड़ मीपर् [Meeper]
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 15:05:41 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
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iska@catposter.club's status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 16:54:36 JST iska
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 17:02:53 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
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...You hadn't heard?
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