O. Simard-Casanova in English
@tshirtman I'm assuming this is what happens when people live in extremely ideological cognitive worlds
They see everything through one, single ideological lense, regardless of wether it makes sense or not
I don't trust Meta, but it's not a reason to invent facts
Gabriel Pettier
@HistoPol @osc I know Meta did terrible, terrible things, even arguably helping at least one genocide. Yes, it’s a harmful company.
That doesn’t say anything about the arm it can do to the Fediverse, with intents or not (that doesn’t matter), and how blocking the thread app helps.
It’s a very knee-jerk reaction, for understandable reasons, but things are not so simple indeed, and we need to understand the actual threats to the fediverse, if we want to have a chance at preventing them.
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
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...by just knowing which number called which numbers when, how frequently.
At that point, the data was "pseudo-anonymized," I'd say.
Now, let's add names, addresses, social-security numbers of just some an that anonymity is gone.
This is just phone numbers.
Look at the data-grab of the #Threads app, illegal in the EU at present, but just as an example.
If you set up your account on #Mastodon with a new, secure e-mail address, then you can stay "anonymous,"...
Gabriel Pettier
@osc well, ideological or not, this is tribe behavior to me, meta is identified as the enemy, so the thing we are running from, so when they get close, this is war. This requires a very simplified vision of what Meta is, we know all there is to know about it, it's bad, and we have the recipes, yes, meta is a bad company, so that's all there is to know about it.
But even accepting it as the enemy, even going to war with it, requires understanding it and preparing the playbook.
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
#DeleteFacebook
#DeleteInstagram
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Things are WAY worse than most people think. It is not just about the commercialization. It is about individual security.
#Meta put(s) a huge number of users lives in danger.
This is what an audit at #Facebook called the #CambridgeAnalyticaSummit found (longer thread, just look at the summary about #Zuckerberg and then click on the external thread link):
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
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...provided that you dilo not provide address data etc. in your posts.
If you connect with one or two, say family members, on the #DataGrabber sites, then you are already compromised IMO.
#China has perfected mass surveillance. #Russia is close.
Once they combine it with #LLMs, which will happen within a year IMO, should Russia not collapse, then we virtually have #MinorityReport conditions for anyone online.
So, IMO, not federating with instances who has...
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
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...personally identifiable information (PIF) on its users is essential.
Even if (today 😉 -- see #France's moves towards a #SurveillanceState in my TL*) you live in a liberal democracy, you might be endangering not-infosec savvy Fedizens who are not e.g. in the aforementioned countries or several of the Arabian countries, e.g. #Iran.
IMHO
Gabriel Pettier
let me state it as clearly as i can, to the risk of being blunt.
Meta harverst and sell your data, anyone who wants this data can certainly buy it from hem.
The fediverse spread your data, -- anything you post publicly -- around, for anyone to collect, for free.
Don’t post anything sensitive on the fediverse, seriously.
If your instance doesn’t collect the thing meta does from its users, they joining the fediverse doesn’t change anything from you in that regard.
Gabriel Pettier
@HistoPol @osc this doesn’t even begin to address how using mastodon has any way changed regarding your PII since Threads joined, nor how blocking them will change anything.
Because this fails to address how all the data you post on mastodon is already public, and what more is gaining (from you, not from its users) by joining the fedi with an app.
If mastodon users are not-infosec-savy, they are *already* into trouble, they were the instant they joined mastodon.
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