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Eaton (eaton@phire.place)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 09:06:07 JST Eaton
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@Quinnypig announced but nonexistent services count as “Strategy" right

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  Corey Quinn (quinnypig@awscommunity.social)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 09:06:08 JST Corey Quinn
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  Next year I want @Gartner_inc to ding companies for every service (particularly GenAI) that has been *announced* but is not yet *available* for general customer use. That'll fix an awful lot--or make it disastrously worse, depending on whether the adults are in charge.
  
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  Corey Quinn (quinnypig@awscommunity.social)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 09:06:09 JST Corey Quinn
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  I think there have been some changes over the past year.
  AWS will smile when I say that companies no longer dread them entering their space. They will stop smiling when I say that's because things like "DocumentDB" are the best sales pitch for MongoDB the world has ever seen.
  
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  Corey Quinn (quinnypig@awscommunity.social)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 09:06:10 JST Corey Quinn
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  In all I don't think there were too many surprises here for us this year; the market has more or less reached some semblance of maturity.
  I think it's way too soon for responsible providers to be going all-in on Gen AI, and judging them for it will lead to tears for us all.
  
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  Corey Quinn (quinnypig@awscommunity.social)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 09:06:11 JST Corey Quinn
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  "Why wasn't X cloud included?" is a common refrain. The list of inclusion criteria is lengthy, contains some bullshit, and also mandates a multi-continent scale that blows a bunch of up-and-comers out of contention.
  
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  Corey Quinn (quinnypig@awscommunity.social)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 09:06:12 JST Corey Quinn
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  All in all, Microsoft has the more complete vision, whereas AWS outperforms on its ability to execute. I will now take questions from you all about what we've just seen.
  
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  Corey Quinn (quinnypig@awscommunity.social)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 09:06:14 JST Corey Quinn
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  Weaknesses include:
  * what the shit? "not going hard enough into GenAI" is the worst thing about Oracle?! You're in a target rich environment and shot your own foot!
  * resilience issues because single-DC design
  * some salespeople still kidnap pets out of habit
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  1. text, letter with text Cautions • Limited GenAl capabilities: In comparison to other cloud leaders, OCI's strategy around generative Al is less mature, and its messaging is muted. Currently, Oracle's partnership with Cohere is centered around its database and Fusion products, and, despite a solid partnership with NVIDIA, OCI's Al infrastructure is not yet well-differentiated in the market. • Limited resilience options: Oracle's most commonly deployed region architecture is one with a single availability domain (AD) containing three fault domains. Currently, very few OCI regions have more than one AD, and customers intending to implement high-availability architectures using multi-AD or multiregion failover may have fewer options than they expect. • Uneven sales and support experience: The OCI sales field leverages its tight relationship with other Oracle business units for integrated customer management. This has mixed implications for enterprise cloud customers, many of whom tell Gart
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  Corey Quinn (quinnypig@awscommunity.social)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 09:06:15 JST Corey Quinn
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  Next up is Oracle Cloud!
  Strengths include:
  * killing it on their "deploy onsite at customers" story
  * nailing multicloud integration because they weren't kidding anybody except themselves that they were anyone's sole cloud
  * pace of innovation is what AWS's used to be
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  1. text, letter with text Strengths • Distributed and sovereign cloud: Oracle is out-innovating the market in the areas of distributed cloud and sovereign cloud computing. Oracle can deploy standard commercial regions, private regions in customer data centers, sovereign cloud regions, disconnected regions and locally partner-operated regions. This range of options is valuable to customers under stringent regulatory and data privacy requirements. • Multicloud integration: OCI offers high-performance interconnection with Microsoft Azure in selected regions, and has recently introduced Oracle- managed database services in AWS and Azure. These options, together with OCI's multicloud application and data integration tools, make it easier for many customers to establish OCI as a "second cloud" adjacent to their existing primary provider. • Velocity of new features: Oracle continues an impressive year-over-year pace of feature introductions that has brought it into direct comparison with the mar
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  Corey Quinn (quinnypig@awscommunity.social)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 09:06:16 JST Corey Quinn
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  Azure cautions include:
  * it catches fire a lot due to neighborhood kids sneaking into the data centers through all of the doors that were left propped open
  * lock-in because they dare to make things that work well together
  * becoming a partner is like getting ordained online
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  1. text, letter with text Cautions • Persistent resilience and security issues: Despite Microsoft's ongoing efforts, the Azure outage in Singapore in January of 2023 illustrated that inconsistent operational practices and failover architectures remain an issue in some regions. Further, serious security vulnerabilities in Azure have been made public by researchers over the past two years. Microsoft is currently in the process of addressing its security posture and working to foster a more security-first culture. • Cross-service dependencies and technology lock-in: Many Gartner clients report frustration with how Azure services are purpose-built to "work best" with other Azure services, such that controlling the spread of Azure in an account is difficult. Often the cost implications of using a new Azure service just to meet the needs of another Azure service are not clear to customers, who then see their Azure bill spike in unforeseen ways. • Uneven partner and unified support quality: Micr
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  Corey Quinn (quinnypig@awscommunity.social)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 09:06:17 JST Corey Quinn
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  Now it's Azure's turn! Strengths:
  * ARC is awesome. I've heard that before from customers.
  * Their DevEx is off the charts, primarily due to extremely low bars set by competitors.
  * They know how to partner without getting bored or eating their counterparty.
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  1. text, letter with text Strengths • Hybrid and multicloud transformation: Microsoft is systematically building out the capability for Azure Resource Manager to govern a wide array of in-cloud, multicloud and on-premises resources using Azure Arc as a connection bridge. Through Arc-enabled solutions for VMware vSphere as well as for hardware servers from traditional OEMs, Microsoft customers can use Azure to administer and secure both private cloud and noncloud resources. • Developer capabilities: Not all Microsoft developer services are "best of breed;" however, when taken together, the Azure developer portfolio rates well across a wide range of use cases including cloud-native app development, legacy modernization, data processing and Al. Additionally, while Microsoft's other developer-oriented clouds, Power Platform and GitHub, are outside the scope of this Magic Quadrant, Azure's integrations with these assets cannot be ignored. • Strategic partnerships: Microsoft has been both wil
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  Corey Quinn (quinnypig@awscommunity.social)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 09:06:18 JST Corey Quinn
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  Google Cloud cautions include:
  * if this thread were a Google Cloud product I'd get bored about now and wander off to do something else
  * like many in our generation, they're terrified of phone calls
  * lack of integration with other, more easily killed Google products
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  1. text, letter with text Cautions • General availability (GA) release cadence: Google has a practice of launching services in preview mode and promoting them aggressively in the market without providing a committed timetable to GA. Customers must use caution when incorporating the "latest and greatest" GCP service innovations into their production deployment plans. • Uneven field and partner maturity. Google maintains a full-featured and expanding customer migration program (RaMP), with over 70 certified migration partners. Yet, Gartner continues to hear from some clients that their Google Cloud migration project was hampered by lack of Google account team availability or lack of in-depth partner experience with GCP. • Minimal integration between Google Cloud and other Alphabet products: GCP is not tightly integrated with Google's other cloud-based properties, notably Workspace, nor with the other products of its parent company Alphabet. Customers hoping to utilize GCP as a foundation
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  Corey Quinn (quinnypig@awscommunity.social)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 09:06:19 JST Corey Quinn
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  Next up is Google Cloud! Strengths include
  * a design elegance you can only achieve if you take the bold step of not firing people for talking to other teams
  * splattering AI everywhere--wait, what? That's only in press releases!
  * Sustainability. Their tool is the best.
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  1. text, letter with text Strengths • Design elegance: In building up its wide array of laaS and PaaS services, Google has applied its core design principles more consistently across its portfolio than its competitors have. Cloud engineers tell Gartner they find GCP APIs to be more consistent and easier to learn and use. • Al-infused laaS and PaaS services: Google not only supports Al/ML development and third-party model integration through its Vertex Al toolset, it is also a leading developer of its own models, including popular large language models such as PaLM 2. Google has begun the process of integrating its models into its core laaS and PaaS services at a deep level. • Environmental sustainability: GCP has the highest sustainability rating of the providers in this Magic Quadrant. Data center energy efficiency is especially important to customers in regions with unstable energy supplies or prices, and for customers engaged in high-energy- consumption cloud activities such as
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  Corey Quinn (quinnypig@awscommunity.social)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 09:06:20 JST Corey Quinn
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  The cautions aren't exactly what I'd pick. "Lack of tools and guidance for multicloud?" Buddy, I'd pay handsomely for tools and guidance for integrating multiple AWS services together cleanly.
  Lift and shift is half of every keynote.
  And "competes with partners" feels tired.
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  1. text, letter with text Cautions • Lack of tools and guidance for multicloud scenarios: Of the major hyperscalers, AWS is notable for its lack of tools and services that directly address multicloud use cases. Gartner survey results indicate that 76% of enterprise laaS and PaaS customers today rely on more than one public cloud provider. • Overemphasis on "lift and shift": The AWS sales field and AWS Migration Acceleration Program (MAP) often emphasize a "move now, modernize later" approach that focuses on getting customers onto AWS as quickly as possible. Customers that do not modernize their workloads postmigration can find themselves maintaining legacy assets in AWS without obtaining the agility and cost benefits they expected. • Potential competition with partners: AWS has a history of introducing services that compete with its ecosystem partners, which can make customers uncertain about who to buy from. AWS offers many managed services for popular open-source packages, migra
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  Corey Quinn (quinnypig@awscommunity.social)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 09:06:21 JST Corey Quinn
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  First up is AWS due to its undisputed alphabetical supremacy.
  Strengths include its "everything but the kitchen sink" approach, its innovation in hardware design, and its large feeding ground--I mean, partner ecosystem.
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  1. text, letter with text Strengths • Breadth and depth of laaS and PaaS services: AWS offers a comprehensive array of cloud infrastructure and platform services that are often more mature than its competitors' offerings. Core AWS services typically influence the market by establishing standards and prices that other providers adopt. • Hardware design innovations: AWS was the first cloud provider to implement performance acceleration and security through hardware offload with its Nitro System, and the first to design its own ARM-based chipsets. Today, these technologies are leveraged extensively across AWS infrastructure, giving AWS a potential cost and efficiency advantage over providers who rely solely on third-party components. • Large, capable partner ecosystem: AWS has mature systems integrator and managed service provider (MSP) partner channels, and AWS partner programs maintain a strong focus on partner technical enablement. AWS Marketplace is the largest and most full-featu
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  Corey Quinn (quinnypig@awscommunity.social)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 09:06:22 JST Corey Quinn
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  We're going to ignore the "niche players" because for three of them I don't speak Mandarin, and for IBM I don't speak ancient Greek.
  That leaves AWS, Azure, Google Cloud, and Oracle Cloud.
  
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  Corey Quinn (quinnypig@awscommunity.social)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 09:06:23 JST Corey Quinn
  
  It's once again the most wonderful time of the year: the newly-renamed Gartner Magic Quadrant for Strategic Cloud Platform Services!
  This year there are no visionaries or challengers, just "cloud" vs. "you pretend to be a cloud." Let's explore together!
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