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>Except the people who actually deal with the sick and dying, who have been screaming at anyone who will listen to them. And of course, the increasing millions of disabled and damaged.
Not where I'm at, covid just simply didn't happen here. The only uptick in attendance at the only clinic with urgent care for miles in every direction was hypochondriacs and people panicking about allergies or colds. I know this because a family friend is a doctor working there. And I trust what's in front of me over what I hear online every single time.
>OK that is a pathological stance in and of itself.
How many times do the institutions of authority who work in ways completely alien and incomprehensible to me have to lie to me before I'm allowed to distrust them? Do you really not understand why people don't listen to liars?
>No, not faith. I demand actually paying attention enough to the evidence in the event of a global fucking crisis situation.
But without the ability to read the evidence they must take it on faith and trust. If something is cited in a language you don't know you must put faith in the translator. And you must first convince them that it is a crisis before they start responding to it as such.
>Then that's the problem, right there. If you can't understand the world around you and aren't educated enough to form an informed opinion based on the available information, that's one thing, but if you then *use that as an excuse for inaction in the face of collective risk, putting others in danger through your inaction* that makes you a problem.
Yes Jeff, most people will never be able to be scientifically educated. It's simply the way humanity is. Just like not every person can be a programmer and a mechanic and a historian and a chef and a theologian. People must put their trust in those who have specialty, and defer to their authority. But if they don't trust their authority they have to venture forth anyways the best they can. This is not a problem that can be solved, or really worked around. It is simply a feature of humanity. Just as wind is something that must always be contended with when dealing with the outdoors ignorance must always be contended with when dealing with the masses, in every field.
>Sure. And I expect anyone who's making strong statements about covid to either have some basic understanding of statistics or to *not spread unqualified bullshit*
But you expect them to spread your unqualified bullshit. Because without understanding the qualification it is effectively unqualified.
>There's plenty of ways to communicate. Digital "new media" might offer a near endless variety of possibilities.
I meant the form you communicate in not the forum. You use only one style of argumentation, academic logic. In which appeal to authority is a key component.

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