Conversation

Notices

1. Embed this notice
   🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 00:36:47 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

   Is this a scam? I feel like a 1TB SD card for 20 bucks must be a scam? Yet the reviews are all good AND there are lots of cards not that much more expensive...

   Can we rreally buy a 1tb this small and this cheap now?

   • Embed this notice
     Dr. G. Power (gpowerf@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 00:44:25 JST Dr. G. Power

     in reply to

     @freemo sounds like a scam to me. I wouldn't trust it :)

   • Embed this notice
     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 00:44:25 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     in reply to

     • Dr. G. Power

     @gpowerf The price feels like one... but: https://www.amazon.com/microSDXC-Memory-GoPro%EF%BC%8CSmartphone-Tablet-Adapter/dp/B0CKVNL82D?pd_rd_w=c8ZYD&content-id=amzn1.sym.6263f500-f8d1-41a8-ae3a-421efdf0dd38&pf_rd_p=6263f500-f8d1-41a8-ae3a-421efdf0dd38&pf_rd_r=0E3BK3E0KBJTZVZKSSD9&pd_rd_wg=gzhvG&pd_rd_r=e0ffb1c9-a831-4236-a739-a24e69f3a6b0&ref_=sspa_ma_st_pt_comp_1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFBS01TRzZZWTBIWk8mZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA2OTQ3NzIxODc2NThDSEYyTzAyJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA2NTc2NTZFVlpETDdXTTkyS1gmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9zaGlwdHJhY2smYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl&th=1

   • Embed this notice
     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 00:48:01 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     in reply to

     • Dr. G. Power

     @gpowerf I dont even have a need right now.. but if there is legit 20$ 1TB microsd cards I would honestly consider starting moving over to this as a backup solution (right now i use extra drives as backup)

   • Embed this notice
     Dr. G. Power (gpowerf@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 00:48:02 JST Dr. G. Power

     in reply to

     @freemo I tend to aim at the 512Gb sd cards, they are good value for the size generally given my uses.

   • Embed this notice
     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 00:48:49 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     in reply to

     • BigMcLargeHuge

     @BigMcLargeHuge if i decided to buy one i would do a full bit for bit integerity check for sure.

   • Embed this notice
     BigMcLargeHuge (bigmclargehuge@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 00:48:50 JST BigMcLargeHuge

     in reply to

     @freemo

     Scam most likely.

     Even if it formats out to close to 1TB, personally, I wouldn't trust data that I need on it.

     YMMV and I hope it does. ;)

   • Embed this notice
     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 00:50:51 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     in reply to

     • BigMcLargeHuge

     @BigMcLargeHuge I will.

   • Embed this notice
     BigMcLargeHuge (bigmclargehuge@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 00:50:52 JST BigMcLargeHuge

     in reply to

     @freemo

     If you pull the trigger, post the results. :)

   • Embed this notice
     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 00:55:15 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     in reply to

     • Dr. G. Power

     @gpowerf not sure they will be fast enough for every day, but for a trial or to play or in a pinch i think it would work out quite well.

   • Embed this notice
     Dr. G. Power (gpowerf@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 00:55:16 JST Dr. G. Power

     in reply to

     @freemo I have a handful of 512Gb ones to try out OSs rather than using a VM. Easy way to dual boot.

   • Embed this notice
     Louis Ingenthron (louisingenthron@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 03:36:01 JST Louis Ingenthron

     in reply to

     @freemo Don't trust the reviews on Amazon. Recently had a seller sue me to take down a bad review. Amazon didn't give a shit.

     So, they're openly allowing their reviews to be gamed by litigious scammers now.

   • Embed this notice
     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 03:36:48 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     in reply to

     • Louis Ingenthron

     @LouisIngenthron Was it just a threat or did it actually go to court? Thats bonkers!

   • Embed this notice
     Louis Ingenthron (louisingenthron@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 03:38:03 JST Louis Ingenthron

     in reply to

     @freemo I had to pay a lawyer to file a motion to dismiss. It was a meritless lawsuit meant to intimidate me, so after we filed that, they gave up.

   • Embed this notice
     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 03:38:30 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     in reply to

     • Louis Ingenthron

     @LouisIngenthron Just getting filed in court at all is a serious enough threat.

   • Embed this notice
     Louis Ingenthron (louisingenthron@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 03:38:56 JST Louis Ingenthron

     in reply to

     @freemo Yup, I got served and everything.

   • Embed this notice
     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 03:39:27 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     in reply to

     • Louis Ingenthron

     @LouisIngenthron Over a god damn amazon review... what the fuck did you say!?

   • Embed this notice
     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 03:40:42 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     in reply to

     • Louis Ingenthron

     @LouisIngenthron You should link me to the amazon product in a DM so I definately will not leave 20 bad reviews.

   • Embed this notice
     Louis Ingenthron (louisingenthron@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 03:41:16 JST Louis Ingenthron

     in reply to

     @freemo It was an expensive item and they marked it as shipped in the system, but didn't give me a tracking number. When I asked for one, they cancelled the order.

     So, I basically just posted that, mentioned how it was suspicious, and told others to look out for a possible scam.

   • Embed this notice
     Louis Ingenthron (louisingenthron@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 03:41:46 JST Louis Ingenthron

     in reply to

     @freemo It was a seller review in this case, not a product review, but yeah.

   • Embed this notice
     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 03:41:56 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     in reply to

     • Louis Ingenthron

     @LouisIngenthron Sounds fair and not at all libel/slander.

   • Embed this notice
     Louis Ingenthron (louisingenthron@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 03:45:51 JST Louis Ingenthron

     in reply to

     @freemo Oh no, I know my 1A jurisprudence. I was very careful not to make any false statements of fact.

     You should see the response I wrote their lawyer before they sued me proper. I tore him a new one about how meritless the threat was. I ended with something along the lines of "Is this really what you went to law school for?"

     In hindsight, that may be why they went through with the lawsuit, lol.

   • Embed this notice
     NotHelpfulUntilIAm🥤 🌛 🗄️ (admitswrongifproven@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 03:46:40 JST NotHelpfulUntilIAm🥤 🌛 🗄️

     in reply to

     @freemo If you can, then they are much cheaper in the US than in germany. I rarely find sd-cards in the local market with 1 TB and they are more like 200 euros.

     On the other hand, 20 bucks for learning this is not much... good luck.

   • Embed this notice
     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 03:48:13 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     in reply to

     • Louis Ingenthron

     @LouisIngenthron The thing iis even if you explicitly and knowingly lied that is still no libel or slander which has additional conditions... so even then the suit was pointless.

     I would have loved to be a fly on that lawyers wall.

   • Embed this notice
     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 03:48:45 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     in reply to

     • NotHelpfulUntilIAm🥤 🌛 🗄️

     @admitsWrongIfProven yea i dunno i didnt buy one too recently.. if they are usually that expensive than seems most of the sdcardson amazon are scams... that could be too.

   • Embed this notice
     Louis Ingenthron (louisingenthron@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 03:51:02 JST Louis Ingenthron

     in reply to

     @freemo From what I understand, there are entire law firms that make their living sending bogus legal threats to people to take down reviews. Most folks don't lawyer up like me... they just fold. And once you delete a seller review on Amazon, it's permanent. You can't re-post or edit. So, these firms sell subscription packages to sellers. "Have a bad review? Let us know, we'll send a scary threat."

     It's scum work, but there are apparently plenty of lawyers willing to abuse the law to make money 🤷♂️

   • Embed this notice
     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 03:53:33 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     in reply to

     • Louis Ingenthron

     @LouisIngenthron honestly id imagine if you didnt fold or lawyer up and just ignore such things in most cases nothing would happen. Once it got in front of a judge and you didnt show the judge would quickly recognize there is no case and dismiss it...

     Maybe im a bit naive but that is probably how id play it. I mean they cant win a lawsuite at most they **might** win an injunction for me to take down the comment.. Good luck they just spent thousands to remove a comment. Then within 24 hours id have a bot net going with 100,000 comments of spam :)

   • Embed this notice
     Louis Ingenthron (louisingenthron@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 03:57:44 JST Louis Ingenthron

     in reply to

     @freemo From what I understand, if you just don't show up, you're likely to get a summary judgement against you.

     Now, at that point the plaintiff would have to spend even more money to try to enforce that, but still.

   • Embed this notice
     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 03:59:21 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     in reply to

     • Louis Ingenthron

     @LouisIngenthron Generally speaking not showing up will work against you if they have even the slightest hint of a possible case.

     But as a non-lawyer with only the vaguest of clues I have to beleive that when the case is as absurd as it is here that even then not showing up would wind up with a dismisal.

     I say that because if you dont show you cant argue your case, but to any half-competent judge you wouldnt need to argue your case for them to know enough to dismiss it.

   • Embed this notice
     Louis Ingenthron (louisingenthron@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 04:03:55 JST Louis Ingenthron

     in reply to

     @freemo From what I understand, that's the "summary" part of "summary judgement". A summary dismissal can mean they didn't even look at the merits of the case, because the judgement is based on something more procedural (like not showing up).

   • Embed this notice
     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 04:06:31 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     in reply to

     • Louis Ingenthron

     @LouisIngenthron Honestly only a lawyer would really know, if that is the case i think thats a pretty messed up part of our system then. A judge should at least review the merits superficially

   • Embed this notice
     ampbenzscientist@qoto.org's status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 18:43:15 JST AmpBenzScientist

     in reply to

     • Louis Ingenthron

     @freemo @LouisIngenthron Many powerful groups keep a hit squad of legal professionals at the ready. Such firms don't always play by the rules and act more like a PMC. Don't underestimate these groups but they have a history of actions and clients. Know your enemy better than they know you.

   • Embed this notice
     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 18:45:01 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     in reply to

     • Louis Ingenthron
     • AmpBenzScientist

     @AmpBenzScientist

     Good I hope thats the case. if they try to sue me ill just add that to my review

     @LouisIngenthron

   • Embed this notice
     ampbenzscientist@qoto.org's status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 20:27:33 JST AmpBenzScientist

     in reply to

     • Louis Ingenthron

     @freemo @LouisIngenthron Obliterating a law firm isn't that rewarding compared to forcing corporate's hand due to the threatening of their brand. They might pay everyone off and forbid such actions in their revised ToS for sellers.

     I didn't study business but I'm pretty sure the customers are the group that one wants to keep.

   • Embed this notice
     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 20:28:47 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     in reply to

     • Louis Ingenthron
     • AmpBenzScientist

     @AmpBenzScientist

     Im more than happy just destroying them in reviews and calling it a day.

     @LouisIngenthron

   • Embed this notice
     Louis Ingenthron (louisingenthron@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 01:22:47 JST Louis Ingenthron

     in reply to

     • AmpBenzScientist

     @freemo @AmpBenzScientist I wish I had that option. Amazon doesn't allow for review updates for seller reviews.

   • Embed this notice
     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 01:23:29 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     in reply to

     • Louis Ingenthron
     • AmpBenzScientist

     @LouisIngenthron

     I'd probably buy a 1$ item and then return it just to be able to leave a new review :)

     @AmpBenzScientist

   • Embed this notice
     🪐 (ericjmorey@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 03:43:18 JST 🪐

     in reply to

     • Dr. G. Power

     @freemo

     The reviews are talking about different products. They sold a 64GB card on that listing before and they switched it to a “1TB” card after they got enough positive reviews. When the negative reviews roll in they’ll take this listing down and move it to another listing that’s currently getting good reviews for some other product.

     @gpowerf

   • Embed this notice
     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 03:56:01 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     in reply to

     • 🪐

     @ericjmorey actually ive seen this happen before. It isnt that they switch the product. Its that when a product is sold in various sizes then the reviews for all sizes show in one space. In and of itself it isnt suspicious as I see it constantly on products i buy.

     It also wouldnt make much sense as a business model… you’d have to spend time and money selling legit products only to sell a handful of bad ones before scrapping it. They would make more just keeping the original listing, especially when the pricing is similar.

   • Embed this notice
     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 04:06:35 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     in reply to

     • 🪐

     @ericjmorey On closer inspection I think your right. Two reasons.

     1) There is no size selection on this page, so my earlier explanation doesnt make sense

     2) even though they are the official distributor of this brand I noticed when i go to their brand page all (except one) of their products are either 1TB or 0.5 TB.. This suggest they did what you said but across all products at once.

   • Embed this notice
     🪐 (ericjmorey@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 04:21:07 JST 🪐

     in reply to

     @freemo

     The branding policy of Amazon has caused a lot of trouble for the USPTO too. Resellers (companies that stamp a brand on generic products or simply unbranded products) are overwhelming the USPTO with trademark applications to create brands using strings of random letters.

   • Embed this notice
     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 04:21:43 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     in reply to

     • 🪐

     @ericjmorey probably something like what they did here.