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   Gammitin (Ben) 💾 (gammitin@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 05:19:08 JST Gammitin (Ben) 💾

   Did anyone else dabble with: Coherent (UNIX-like OS) in the early 90's?
   It turns out it was open sourced in 2015, I'm certainly going to be exploring this again, here's the download link for anyone that's interested (4x Floppy Images):
   https://github.com/gspu/Coherent

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     gnutelephony (gnutelephony@floss.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 05:19:06 JST gnutelephony

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     @Gammitin I do kinda remember it. It would be nice if there were install images/iso's that could be used for qemu. I don't think graphics was ever a big thing for it, but being able to use it in text mode with qemu serial console support could be ideal.

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     Gammitin (Ben) 💾 (gammitin@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 07:18:42 JST Gammitin (Ben) 💾

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     @gnutelephony here you go:
     https://www.autometer.de/unix4fun/coherent/ftp/vms/

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     gnutelephony (gnutelephony@floss.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 07:18:42 JST gnutelephony

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     @Gammitin 4.2.10 sounds more complete than 4.2.14, and is bigger... but what network card? I assume no modern virtio is involved.

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     silverwizard (silverwizard@convenient.email)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 13:10:14 JST silverwizard

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     @Gammitin my dad wrote the kernel for that! It's super cool messing around with code my dad wrote!
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     gnutelephony (gnutelephony@floss.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 19:03:17 JST gnutelephony

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     • christian mock

     @cm @Gammitin very possible. I couldn't get my freedos to network on qemu, though, and that had it as well as intel packet drivers. But we shall see...

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     christian mock (cm@chaos.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 19:03:18 JST christian mock

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     • gnutelephony

     @gnutelephony @Gammitin I would guess NE2000 as that was the "standard" network card back then?

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     gnutelephony (gnutelephony@floss.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 19:38:17 JST gnutelephony

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     • Stuart Longland (VK4MSL)

     @stuartl @Gammitin indeed, we can get lots of very old things to work with #ppp and remapping serial. It is a shame #qemu and most other emulators never built in an easy to use virtual serial ppd/hayes modem "emulator", as it already has user mode networking with it's own dhcp/dns handoff. I think the Apple2 #MicroM8 emulator may do something like that. Even easy serial port mapping in something like qemu to a virtual kermit server might be nice. #RetroComputing

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     Stuart Longland (VK4MSL) (stuartl@mastodon.longlandclan.id.au)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 19:38:19 JST Stuart Longland (VK4MSL)

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     @gnutelephony @Gammitin

     Well… qemu supports a few models, and apparently `ne2k_isa` is one of them -- probably your best bet with an early 90s vintage OS.

     `qemu-system-i386 -net model=ne2k_isa,irq=5,iobase=0x280 …` from what I gather via a quick search on the topic.

     Failing that, maybe SLIP or PPP via a virtual serial port mapped to a pseudo TTY.

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     gnutelephony (gnutelephony@floss.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 19:56:17 JST gnutelephony

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     • Stuart Longland (VK4MSL)

     @stuartl @Gammitin a virtual hayes modem virtual driver you can attach to a virtual serial port, where you can configure a list of arbitrary "telephone numbers" that could map to a tcp connection, a pty, a physical device, or a pppd service, I think would be great. And an optional tcp port you can bind and connect to for "incoming" calls.

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     christian mock (cm@chaos.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 21:45:43 JST christian mock

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     @Gammitin Yes, and I still have the manual (and probably the floppies) around. The manual was very good and helped me build the basics of my Unix knowledge...

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     gnutelephony (gnutelephony@floss.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 21:59:08 JST gnutelephony

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     • Stuart Longland (VK4MSL)

     @stuartl @Gammitin indeed, the coherent hd image does "boot" in qemu, and the console is okay. I had not been able to get network going with it yet, though. But I may try playing with it later...

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     silverwizard (silverwizard@convenient.email)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 22:09:39 JST silverwizard

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     @Gammitin a bunch of them were scooped up from the University of Waterloo to write an OS, I mostly have stories of 2am pizza runs in Chicago as their primary method of.writing code

     I think the only reason I like deep dish pizza is that OS

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     Gammitin (Ben) 💾 (gammitin@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 22:09:40 JST Gammitin (Ben) 💾

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     • silverwizard

     @silverwizard oh wow, that's cool. Awesome dad skills! 👍👍👍

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     silverwizard (silverwizard@convenient.email)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 22:23:01 JST silverwizard

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     • christian mock
     @cm @Gammitin that's freaking cool!
     I'd love to see those floppies if you have them! I've literally never seen live ones
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     silverwizard (silverwizard@convenient.email)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 22:40:13 JST silverwizard

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     @Gammitin that and a story about sitting in the library trying to figure out how this worked: timeanddate.com/calendar/julia…

     Apparently writing cal is way harder when you need to use books!

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     silverwizard (silverwizard@convenient.email)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 01:37:08 JST silverwizard

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     • christian mock
     @cm @Gammitin Aw shit! That's cool as hell!
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     christian mock (cm@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 01:37:09 JST christian mock

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     • silverwizard

     @silverwizard @Gammitin Here is what I could find at the moment; there was also a set of hand-labeled 4.0.1 3 1/2" disks, and since I have the 4.0 manual I think I also must have the original floppies, but where under all that dust? I also seem to remember that I had something in 5.25"...