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    Qasim Rashid, Esq. (qasimrashid@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Dec-2023 16:50:02 JST Qasim Rashid, Esq. Qasim Rashid, Esq.

    EIon Musk’s Wealth
    2009: $.6B
    2023: $249B

    Jeff Bezos’s Wealth
    2009: $6B
    2023: $153B

    Mark Zuckerberg’s Wealth
    2009: $.6B
    2023: $105B

    Federal Minimum Wage
    2009: $7.25
    2023: $7.25

    Billionaire tax rate: 8.2%
    Worker tax rate: 13%

    Pay workers.
    Tax Billionaires.
    Save our economy.

    In conversation Sunday, 03-Dec-2023 16:50:02 JST from mastodon.social permalink
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      🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 03-Dec-2023 16:52:08 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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      @QasimRashid

      Wow so much misleading data here not sure where to start…

      Billionaire tax rate: 8.2%
      Worker tax rate: 13%

      The billionaire tax rate you site is across the entire family then averaged per person. So a billionaire with 5 new born kids and a wife would show1/7th his real paid tax rate.”

      As if that werent bad enough the worker tax rate is the number as it would be calculated for individual works, not diluted across the family. So clearly this is an intentional cheat.

      How do I know? Because literally the first hit when i google searched it gave those numbers and when investigating the source I found the intentionally misleading nature of it.

      Federal Minimum Wage
      2009: $7.25
      2023: $7.25

      This has two problems.. 1st, you are cmparing an entire persons life worth (including inheretance) and comparing it against someone supposed hourly wage. These arent even remotely comparable or related things.

      On top of that you used the federal minimum wage which is not actually used, anywhere. The states all have their own minimum wage, and they are all above that of the federal minimum wage. So the federal minimum wage you list is literally not the minimum wage used anywhere

      This is a big reason why these sorts of arguments are dismissed by so many people, they are so over the top dishonest and biased people have stopped paying attention to this sort of nonsense.

      In conversation Sunday, 03-Dec-2023 16:52:08 JST permalink
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      🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 03-Dec-2023 16:56:55 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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      • Dire Sock :verified:

      @diresock

      Well… five states don’t have a minimum wage: Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina and Tennessee.
      Two states, Georgia and Wyoming, have a minimum wage below $7.25 per hour.

      Seems I was mistaken there. Just double checked, indeed there are two states below federal minimum wage.

      The massive increase in wealth of anyone who gets into congress is a more interesting trend that needs investigation.

      Indeed that would be more interesting a argument.

      @QasimRashid

      In conversation Sunday, 03-Dec-2023 16:56:55 JST permalink
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      Dire Sock :verified: (diresock@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 03-Dec-2023 16:56:57 JST Dire Sock :verified: Dire Sock :verified:
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      • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      @freemo @QasimRashid Well... five states don't have a minimum wage: Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina and Tennessee.
      Two states, Georgia and Wyoming, have a minimum wage below $7.25 per hour.

      The rest of your points still stand.
      Minimal wage has nothing to do with the accomplishments of individuals.

      The massive increase in wealth of anyone who gets into congress is a more interesting trend that needs investigation.
      In conversation Sunday, 03-Dec-2023 16:56:57 JST permalink
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      🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 04-Dec-2023 05:00:26 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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      • equiraptor

      @equiraptor Yes we covered that earlier in the thread and agreed that was a mistake.

      In conversation Monday, 04-Dec-2023 05:00:26 JST permalink
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      equiraptor (equiraptor@mas.to)'s status on Monday, 04-Dec-2023 05:00:27 JST equiraptor equiraptor
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      • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

      @freemo The state minimum wages are not all above the federal minimum wage. Texas adopts the federal miniminimum wage, so the minimum wage in Texas is $7.25 an hour. There’s nuance in things like tipped wages, but that’s enough to show you also need to check your facts. Source is the Texas Workforce Commission.

      https://www.twc.texas.gov/programs/wage-and-hour/texas-minimum-wage-law

      Edit: I now see your other comment elsewhere. Maybe edit the comment I replied to, so readers see accurate info? Federation makes it hard to see everything!

      In conversation Monday, 04-Dec-2023 05:00:27 JST permalink

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      🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 04-Dec-2023 05:01:17 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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      • Niclas Hedhman

      @niclas

      Most successful people work below minimum wage, namely, 0$. I have worked at 0$ at all my companies at the start.

      @QasimRashid

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      Niclas Hedhman (niclas@angrytoday.com)'s status on Monday, 04-Dec-2023 05:01:18 JST Niclas Hedhman Niclas Hedhman
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      • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

      @freemo

      IIRC, Steve Jobs worked way below minimum wage. Was it a $1/year?

      A long time ago, people had "piecework" or "working on piece rate", i.e. paid per unit produced. They fought hard to get rid of that, but in reality that only moves the productive output of one individual to the salary of a less productive individual.

      If everyone got paid their actual value brought to the process, a lot of people would be paid less than minimum wage, and many a lot more.

      @QasimRashid

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      🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 04-Dec-2023 06:48:24 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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      • MasterMischief

      @MasterMischief

      Hahah , well at leat your using fair language here, I certainly have no issue with you taking concern with any perceived inequality. A lot more honest than using loaded and inaccurate language like "tax give aways"

      @QasimRashid

      In conversation Monday, 04-Dec-2023 06:48:24 JST permalink
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      MasterMischief (mastermischief@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 04-Dec-2023 06:48:26 JST MasterMischief MasterMischief
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      • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

      @freemo @QasimRashid The cavilers never miss an opportunity to defend the nobles. We can see the inequality with our own eyes

      In conversation Monday, 04-Dec-2023 06:48:26 JST permalink

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