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@jeffcliff @dytha @johndolph >COVID causes brain damage
Maybe it does, but the study you linked was weak, to say the least. It also lackss follow up results to show permanence. Furthermore, it didn't account for whether the virus actually caused this in all cases or only in those who die, and given the completely healthy 30 something year old dude who died of CO poisoning in that study, I frankly think it's just methodologically flawed and wouldn't have gained any traction in normal years. That's speculation because I admittedly stopped effort on it when I read they did a "dude trust us it's a COVID death" post mortem swab or a healthy young man who died of CO poisoning.
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@MaceDindu @nordtrack @dytha @johndolph @BowsacNoodle @Beomus @lonelyranger
> There's no end-game path to the technological solution other than transhumanism.
sure there is
total human death
> Life is red in tooth and claw
and if that's how you're going to be, then that makes you no better than the pork chop i just ate for dinner. I will have no remorse for you.
> trying to make everything "fair" and considering "all life equally valid" is just bullshit
All life doesn't have to be equally valid. Even a little bit of valid life will do the trick in the face of a virus that maims and kills as much as this one does. The scale tilt very quickly towards ending people who interfere with its eradication if you care about anyone other than yourself in almost any kind of way.
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@jeffcliff @Beomus @BowsacNoodle @dytha @johndolph @lonelyranger @nordtrack It's just cope. You want to deal with the problems of technology with still more techology, because the alternative is heinous. It's understandable, but it's cope. There's no end-game path to the technological solution other than transhumanism. We're already sufficiently "advanced" technologically where the concept of human dignity is a farce. You want to double down in hopes that your non-existent offspring may somehow save it by some means you can't describe. There's nothing there, however. Life is red in tooth and claw, and trying to make everything "fair" and considering "all life equally valid" is just bullshit. If anything is going to make mankind extinct, it's certainly tech, outside of a comet strike or whatever.
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@MaceDindu @nordtrack @dytha @johndolph @BowsacNoodle @Beomus @lonelyranger I used to think about this a lot, and have been trying to reach out to ray kurzweil and derrick jensen to have a debate on this very kind of question. ( Jensen is for it, incidentally, but I can't seem to get through to kurzweil )
But after reading that last econometrics textbook I no longer view 'technology' through this lens. Dependence on technology isn't the problem imho. There's problems involved in the use of technology, of course - complexity, political power politics (expressed through the control of technology) and so on. But what tools are used in the year 3023 or whatever, should humanity live that long, is something that I will leave for the kids to deal with. I have more pressing concerns, like leaving the next generation with working brains, during an era where a BSL3 brain damaging virus is on the loose.
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@MaceDindu @nordtrack @dytha @johndolph @BowsacNoodle @Beomus @lonelyranger nice straw man
No, that isn't the only possible outcome.
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@jeffcliff @Beomus @BowsacNoodle @dytha @johndolph @lonelyranger @nordtrack Yeah? What's the alternative? What's your plan to avoid ever-greater dependence on technology in lieu of natural immunity?
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@jeffcliff @Beomus @BowsacNoodle @dytha @johndolph @lonelyranger @nordtrack The endpoint of this logic is obviously transhumanism. Man will eventually conquer nature with enough SCIENCE!
Of course, it will mean the extinction of man as we know him, so there's that. ISTM that your way of thinking depends on mankind assimilating enough people who will instantly die if anyone opens a bag of peanuts within a mile radius of them into the Borg. Then you only have to worry about computer viruses!
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@jeffcliff @Beomus @BowsacNoodle @dytha @johndolph @lonelyranger @nordtrack btw, if you're ok with culling, what even is your agenda? Why cull the strong and keep the weak, who are wholly dependent on medical intervention? How does that make sense?
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@jeffcliff @Beomus @BowsacNoodle @dytha @johndolph @lonelyranger @nordtrack Probably not even that, but yes. Now you're starting to see the problem, maybe. You're trying to solve with technology problems that technology itself caused.
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@MaceDindu @nordtrack @dytha @johndolph @BowsacNoodle @Beomus @lonelyranger I'm well aware of that.
And I'm not trying to solve the problem "with technology". I'm trying to solve the problem with quarantines, culling ( including but not limited to people like @MaceDindu ) , social distancing, HVAC/air filtration, vaccines, masks, contact tracing and testing. Does this involve "technology"? Maybe, if you want to think of it this way. I don't.
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@MaceDindu @nordtrack @dytha @johndolph @BowsacNoodle @Beomus @lonelyranger .
> If these diseases had hit mankind prior to technology to "combat" them, they woulnd't have ended mankind.
and before mankind had international air travel they would have killed maybe one or two local tribes and that's it.
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@jeffcliff @Beomus @BowsacNoodle @dytha @johndolph @lonelyranger @nordtrack It's the same principle tho. If these diseases had hit mankind prior to technology to "combat" them, they woulnd't have ended mankind.
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@jeffcliff @Beomus @BowsacNoodle @dytha @johndolph @lonelyranger @nordtrack All infections and viruses attack the immune system at the end of the day. Some people's immune systems fight it off effectively, some don't. That's evolution.
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@MaceDindu @nordtrack @dytha @johndolph @BowsacNoodle @Beomus @lonelyranger No they don't. Not like HIV/covid.
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@MaceDindu @nordtrack @dytha @johndolph @BowsacNoodle @Beomus @lonelyranger Covid *attacks* the immune system.
it *makes* people 'weak'
this is exactly like saying "we need to give HIV to everyone, because fuck the weak"
So how about you go find someone with covid / HIV and infect yourself, bugchaser. Show us how good of an idea that plan is.
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@nordtrack @jeffcliff @BowsacNoodle @dytha @johndolph @Beomus @lonelyranger Hot take: the weak deserve to perish. If we continually replace our immune systems with man-made immune responses, we'll end up overall weaker as a species.
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@BowsacNoodle @dytha @johndolph > the study
I'm sure I've linked you to more than one at this point. That one was more about the permanent effects, which I haven't seen as much on. As far as the damage itself, ask @Beomus or @lonelyranger about how much evidence there is of that. [Maybe they have been paying enough attention to notice, maybe not]
> That's speculation because I admittedly stopped effort on it when I read they did a "dude trust us it's a COVID death" post mortem swab or a healthy young man who died of CO poisoning.
While mistakes certainly happen, Covid is underreported these days not overreported.
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Hear me out; Jeff's right about everything except that the fouchi sucks
Look at what ethnogroups this shit genetically targets. Know a few including me that have been hit with the tards after getting chinkypox
Feels like you're all talking glowy talking points around each other which is S.O.P. for this stuff
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
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