Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣
Anyone still remembers the definition or usage of the "flavor" in #Linux?
What I can remember:
* Distro: .deb (Debian); .rpm (RHeL); etc.
* Flavor: Ubuntu; Kubuntu; Lubuntu; OpenSuSe; etc.
* DE: Gnome; KDE; LDE; etc.
I think there's another one but I can't recall.
Today, no one is using "flavor". And "distro" changed in usage to "project name" (like Ubuntu, Mint, Peppermint, and so on).
Or, I'm misremembering things?
Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣
@vappster Ahh! Yes! That's it! Thank you soo much!
vappster
@youronlyone I think you might be slightly misremembering things.
* Distro: Ubuntu, Debian, Arch, etc.
* Flavor: Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu (for Ubuntu); Mint's various "Editions", etc.
* DE: Gnome, KDE, LDE, etc.
And the other major one you couldn't recall is likely the package manager (apt, rpm, pacman, etc.), which you might have mixed up a bit with your definition of Distro
Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣
@SteveTux Yep, it's what's confusing me.
I'm thinking similarly that Ubuntu is a Flavor of Debian. But on the other hand, it's also a Distro be itself and have its own Flavors.
DE is Desktop Environment. In the early days, it was a heated battle between Gnome and KDE, and Flavors came out one after another based on those two.
I guess when Ubuntu came to the picture with their Kubuntu, Lubuntu, flavors, the importance of DE and Flavors eventually was forgotten. Now it's all about the Distro.
But we should probably archive these info before it's forgotten. Unfortunately, I'm not sure myself anymore how all of these terminologies were originally defined. 😅😅
Steve
@youronlyone
Hi Yuki!
Interesting. I am curious.
I thought .deb and .rpm are the package managers of the projects.
With Flavors like Kubuntu and Lubuntu I assume its a "flavored" Ubuntu, so I would agree.
But it originated from Debian, so Ubuntu would be a flavor of Debian?
DE: ? Development Environment?
Dont know yet.
Would like to learn.
Curious about replies. ;)
retropikzel_
@youronlyone Then theres also spins https://fedoraproject.org/spins/
Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣
@retropikzel_ Oh yeah, Spies too!
Michael Miller :blobrdm: 🦆
@youronlyone you described “flavor” exactly how I’ve seen the usage over my 20 years of Linux.
Flavor, to me, was a combination of the DE and the pre-installed package set. And different flavors were all part of one base distro (this reminds me that Debian, Red Hat, Slack were “base distros”for a time). Even Ubuntu was a flavor of Debian at the start, but quickly grew out from that to probably be its own base distro.
Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣
@raineer Ahh! I like that "base distro". Ubuntu is what made me confused since I've viewed it as a Flavor of Debian. Then I'm stuck what to call Kubuntu and Lubuntu. Unless I re-categorize Ubuntu as a distro, then she rest are flavors.
And then the forks! At least the forks are easier, it's just "fork". 😅
"Base distro", definitely like that.
Michael Miller :blobrdm: 🦆
@youronlyone I feel like Ubuntu is now a "base distro derived from Debian", mainly because "base distro based on Debian" sounds weird :laugh:
I feel like it stopped being a "flavor" when the project got so large and started to push in a different ideological direction. The recent controversy over Snaps also reinforces that Ubuntu has done much more than just customize a DE and select certain packages, Canonical wants it to approach Linux management in a very specific way.
This leaves room for Kubuntu, Edubuntu, etc to be flavors of Ubuntu, which they certainly are.
But, this is all splitting hairs. Any interpretation is correct if the user understands it! :linux:
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