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   nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Nov-2023 15:54:10 JST nemesis (asbestos arc)
   I still dont really see the big benefit of nixos tbh
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     nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Nov-2023 15:55:28 JST nemesis (asbestos arc)

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     my continued impression of it is that its a cool idea but unless you're doing a lot of complex sysadmining or running cloud deployments at scale or something like that it seems like its just an extra layer of complexity standing between you and the system
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     @nemesis it always struck me as an overgrown research project with documentation quality to match, pretty much instantly filters me
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     nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Nov-2023 16:03:15 JST nemesis (asbestos arc)

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     @allison its the only distro I've tried that really feels like its not linuxy, which is kind of cool but I'm not sure how I feel about it
     
     cat /etc/nixos/configuration.nix isnt really any easier than pacman -Q and its annoying that I have to write a flake to install anything that isnt packaged, or that the linux filesystem hierarchy isnt used and so ABIs for precompiled binaries may break etc.
     
     reproducible builds would be nice except my language of choice completely ignores the OS for the most part and has its own declarative configuration system
     
     idk, I'm definitely not going back to "just works" distros like popos but idk if I want to stick with nixos, I might put arch on my old desktop when I get around to changing the OS on it
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     @nemesis "only distro (....) not linuxy" I know it's in no way practical, but have you ever used gobolinux at any point in the past?
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     @nemesis it's definitely quite a bit off the beaten path as linuxes go
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     nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Nov-2023 16:06:59 JST nemesis (asbestos arc)

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     @allison huh no, I've never even heard of it before
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     nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Nov-2023 16:10:08 JST nemesis (asbestos arc)

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     @allison if I ever have the time and have hardware that supports it and that isnt my daily driver experimenting with off the beaten path OSes would be cool
     
     I definitely want to try setting up a fully de-bloated Gentoo a laptop at some point
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     @nemesis I'm probably gonna spin it up in a VM soon myself now that I remembered it again and I have virt-manager working
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     nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Nov-2023 16:14:58 JST nemesis (asbestos arc)

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     @allison VMs are the easy way to try out unusual OSes for sure, sadly for me somehow it doesnt feel real if it isnt on bare metal
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     @nemesis I don't have room to spare so it can't be helped, stack of laptops would go a long way to fixing that but I'd have to get on the collecting grind again first
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     nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Nov-2023 16:15:07 JST nemesis (asbestos arc)

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     @iska how does it differ?
     
     guix seems like nixos with a nicer language but far fewer packages and less documentation which is a tradeoff I dont think I would want to make
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     Iska (iska@catposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Nov-2023 16:15:09 JST Iska

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     @nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe guix is better :blobcatsunglasses: I use it on my server, and was supposed to put it on my desktop and laptop :blobcatgoogly:
     
     it's really nice

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     nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Nov-2023 16:20:05 JST nemesis (asbestos arc)

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     @allison my old laptop whose screen just broke was pretty close to being viable for such things (and I was able to run artix + sway on it), sadly now that its gone I'm likely to stay cucked to systemd, x11 and glibc for the time being
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     @nemesis yeah for my usecases c2d era stuff is mostly fine, it's just a matter of finding and provisioning it