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   Kristin (vis.social Admin) (kristinhenry@vis.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Nov-2023 13:56:42 JST Kristin (vis.social Admin)

   Hey folks!

   Please do NOT report artists for sharing links to where their art is available to purchase!

   Just DO NOT be such a jerk!

   If you want artists to keep sharing their work on mastodon, this whole "absolute no commercial posts at all" attitude has to stop. There is a huge difference between a big corporate ad campaign and an individual artist posting a link to their own art shop.

   #ArtForSale #art #visSocialTips

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     Jon F (avonvilla@aus.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Nov-2023 16:25:56 JST Jon F

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     @kristinHenry I saw this post because it is trending, so it was fairly high up on the "Explore" tab in my web client. Presumably it is intended for the vis.social instance, but it seems Mastodon is spreading it all over the place, and it might even appear on servers which have a rule of "absolutely no commercial posts at all". If that is the case, then a person reporting such a post on those servers would not be a jerk. I am on a peertube server which has such a policy and I think it's great to have that option.

     I personally think creative expression is usually impaired by any sort of commercial activity and I try to steer clear of it.

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     Annika Backstrom (annika@xoxo.zone)'s status on Monday, 27-Nov-2023 16:25:56 JST Annika Backstrom

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     • Jon F

     @AvonVilla @kristinHenry You don't have to forward every report to the originating server. Just because the post violates a local policy, doesn't mean you need to bother the remote admin.

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     Negative12DollarBill (negative12dollarbill@techhub.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Nov-2023 16:32:55 JST Negative12DollarBill

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     @kristinHenry
     What "absolute no commercial posts at all" attitude? I've never seen anyone say that.

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     Annika Backstrom (annika@xoxo.zone)'s status on Monday, 27-Nov-2023 16:32:55 JST Annika Backstrom

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     • Negative12DollarBill

     @negative12dollarbill @kristinHenry I've had to remove a handful of spurious reports against people promoting their own work. Consider yourself lucky if it hasn't affected you, I guess.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 27-Nov-2023 23:49:19 JST Rich Felker

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     • gi124

     @gi124 @kristinHenry Or just don't follow them. Short of unwanted replies/tagging, you're responsible for what you see here. Absolutely no excuse for trying to police people who aren't harming anyone.

     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: likes this.
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     gi124 (gi124@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Nov-2023 23:49:20 JST gi124

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     @kristinHenry if post is tagged #artforsale then people who don't want to see it can mute it without having to report...

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 27-Nov-2023 23:52:15 JST SuperDicq

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     @kristinHenry@vis.social I don't see the issue with commercial entities having fediverse account at all. Banning anything commercial at all feels like anti-capitalism gone way too far.
     
     There are many commercial entities I like following on here, like hardware and software businesses. I also have a fediverse account for my own software business.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 27-Nov-2023 23:53:44 JST SuperDicq

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     @kristinHenry@vis.social Brands on Twitter for example are an issue because they abuse the algorithm and they pay for sponsored posts and get special treatment.
     
     You can't do that on the fediverse. I don't mind brands being here, because here our accounts are all equal.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 27-Nov-2023 23:54:22 JST SuperDicq

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     @kristinHenry@vis.social Don't like [brand]? Just block them.

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     Helianthus (theseeduneed@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Nov-2023 00:00:40 JST Helianthus

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     @kristinHenry
     IMO there should be a disincentive for abusive reporting. I think there would be nothing wrong with suspending a user for a couple of days who repeatedly has reported an account for no real reason (after a warning is this exists on Mastodon).

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     Chicken :cqlgusu: (lookitmychicken@blorbo.social)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Nov-2023 04:53:38 JST Chicken :cqlgusu:

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     @kristinHenry
     I haven't seen any reports like this. I'd hope that they are pretty rare.

     But also, each server gets to set its own rules. If there's a server with a rule that they don't allow any commercial posts at all, then an artist who wants to make a commercial post should do so through one of the vast majority of servers where it's okay to do so.