I've switched from Chrome to Firefox about a decade ago. It's just as fast and intuitive, and container tabs are a game changer. It always catches me off guard when I see its market share is so low.
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Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 23:56:04 JST
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7sleepersmusic (7sleepersmusic@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 23:59:17 JST
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@Gargron I work at a University, Google handles our email and a lot of other services, so we're encouraged to use Chrome. I think that's common in academia, at least here in the USA. But I use FF anyway ;-)
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Polychrome :blabcat: (polychrome@poly.cybre.city)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:00:39 JST
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@victorvicpal @Gargron when I have to Chrome I Vivaldi :blobcatgooglyshrug: -
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Víctor Vicente-Palacios (victorvicpal@dair-community.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:00:41 JST
Víctor Vicente-Palacios
@Gargron I use it in my personal computer and I'm not planning to change it. But professionally I have no choice but Chrome :(
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Avelar,Felipe (fearlipe@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:07:06 JST
Avelar,Felipe
@Gargron I'm stuck with safari, and i'm happy with it... The system integration with iMessages and iDevices is completely killer features.
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Borys Pierov (ashald@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:10:20 JST
Borys Pierov
@Gargron And with Sidebery extension built on top of containers Firefox becomes simply transformative! 😍
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Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:13:43 JST
Eugen Rochko
@digitalstefan What do you mean when you say you have to use Chrome professionally? A specific website that only works in Chrome?
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DigitalStefan (digitalstefan@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:13:44 JST
DigitalStefan
@Gargron I have no choice but to use Chrome professionally, but I also find it strange that FF has such a low share.
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Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:14:18 JST
Eugen Rochko
@victorvicpal @agaguk Oh. That’s rough.
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Víctor Vicente-Palacios (victorvicpal@dair-community.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:14:26 JST
Víctor Vicente-Palacios
@agaguk @Gargron My company won't let me have firefox. There is no reason, but I have no way to install it unless I can justify it in a way that is irrevocable.
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Agaguk (agaguk@mstdn.ca)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:14:32 JST
Agaguk
@victorvicpal @Gargron why do you have to work with chrome 😲?
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Tomcat🇺🇦🇮🇱 (woodcat@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:14:36 JST
Tomcat🇺🇦🇮🇱
@Gargron There's nothing to be surprised about. It's a consequence of their policy when support for old extensions was discontinued. Their attitude towards users is disgusting.
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bartosz 🚲🌳🐍 (btel@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:16:59 JST
bartosz 🚲🌳🐍
@Gargron same here. I use FF on my private laptop and my phone bu at work I am forced to use Chrome, I never understood why 🤷♂️
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Omer Balamir :tapbots_logo: (omerb@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:17:18 JST
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@Gargron No one using Opera? I’m happy with it in my Windows machine.
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David Schmidt (individual8@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:19:23 JST
David Schmidt
@Gargron "as fast and intuitive" probably not a convincing argument and "container tabs" an unknown and too advanced feature.
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OddOpinions5 (failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:36:07 JST
OddOpinions5
maybe this is just me, but over the last year or so, I have observed that many websites for large corporations (large) don't work with FireFox
YMMV
I am NOT a programmer, but this seems to me reasonable: you can't expect a bank or some such to cater to every browser
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Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:36:07 JST
Eugen Rochko
@failedLyndonLaRouchite Actually, you can, because the web is built on standard technologies that are not unique to a specific browser. So the bank does not have to worry about every specific browser as long as they follow the standards correctly.
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Stone1glo (stone1glo@newsie.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 01:25:13 JST
Stone1glo
I’m trying Vivaldi. Anyone know any problems with it?
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Brendan Jones (brendanjones@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 01:25:13 JST
Brendan Jones
It's built on Chromium, which is for better or worse maintained by Google. They've certainly been trying to do some fishy stuff lately.
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kopio (kopio@mas.to)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 01:25:14 JST
kopio
@victorvicpal @Gargron I have 5 browsers on my computer, mostly for work, one because I'm too lazy to get rid of Edge.
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SJTheGreat06 (sjthegreat06@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 01:29:24 JST
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@Gargron You're not alone Eugen...
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Rishu Srivastava (rishusrivastava@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 02:31:59 JST
Rishu Srivastava
@Gargron How's firefox better than chrome?
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Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 02:38:33 JST
Eugen Rochko
@rishusrivastava Besides being just as good in terms of performance and ease of use, Firefox uses less memory and does not belong to an advertising company which is increasingly using its near-monopoly to make ads harder to avoid.
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sully1503 (sully1503@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 03:09:42 JST
sully1503
@Gargron Honestly, I switched over to Edge from Firefox, professionally, and they have one feature that would keep me from ever going back. I can split the screen, two tabs open on one screen, and then link them so any link I open on the right opens on the left. Does so many wonders for some applications. Personally, I use Sidekick.
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FruitInTheRoom (fruitintheroom@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 03:14:37 JST
FruitInTheRoom
@Gargron Hey Eugen, I've been using Firefox for years, don't let that market share crap worry you. As long as Linux Mint promotes it it should stick around. Cheers @FruitInTheRoom
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/home/Leo/mastodon (leochavez@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 03:45:41 JST
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@Gargron #Firefox has had its ups and downs where speed and reliability are concerned, but I’ve stuck with it since the Netscape days. Then to Phoenix, and now Firefox.
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DaySleeper 💚 (digitalstepchild@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 03:46:12 JST
DaySleeper 💚
@Gargron
Big fan of Firefox for 15 years. A friend introduced me to it back then.
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RoyalQuack (royalquack@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 03:50:31 JST
RoyalQuack
@Gargron I absolutely love Firefox! I really don’t understand how so little people don’t even know what it is?!
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Ruben Capiau (rubencapiau@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 03:55:05 JST
Ruben Capiau
@Gargron The Chrome team has resumed the transition to Manifest v3 and explicitly decided NOT to support the the blocking version of webRequest anymore 🚫 (https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/chromium-extensions/c/X-aHqPOKcQU).
So from mid 2️⃣0️⃣2️⃣4️⃣, extensions in #Chrome need to be based on #MV3 and will be limited 📉 in what they can do (the powerful content blocker #uBlock Origin can't be fully ported: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-asked-questions-(FAQ)#filtering-capabilities-which-cant-be-ported-to-mv3).
#Firefox retains webRequest blocking in MV3 👍 (https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2022/10/31/begin-your-mv3-migration-by-implementing-new-features-today/).
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Fradie (fradie_new@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 04:22:58 JST
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@Gargron
I also use Firefox because it has its own engine - #Google otherwise has a monopoly with #Chrome, while #Mozilla continues to use #Gecko. And I mean, #Firefox is very fast if it doesn't have 200 add-ons running...In conversation permalink -
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Bullwong (bullwong@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 05:12:04 JST
Bullwong
@Gargron Firefox is so much more user friendly, let alone the fact that it doesn't have the spyware Chrome does.
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Ian Channing 🦈 (ianchanning@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 05:27:36 JST
Ian Channing 🦈
@Gargron I use Firefox the same way I use duckduckgo. It works for 90% of everything I need, then fall back to Chromium. My one case where I use Chrome is the microphone for Google meet. My ThinkPad inbuilt microphone sounds terrible with FF but OK with Chrome. I used headphones for a while, but no one else in the team does so switched to without.
Container tabs are awesome as are tab groups, as is rust. It's scary when something so good has so little market share
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Brendan Jones (brendanjones@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 05:36:19 JST
Brendan Jones
@WildEnte @Stone1glo @Vivaldi Google, not Vivaldi.
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WildEnte (wildente@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 05:36:20 JST
WildEnte
@Brendanjones @Stone1glo
Care to say what fishy stuff @Vivaldi supposedly has tried lately? I follow them quite closely and I have no idea what you might be talking about.In conversation permalink -
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june (lilacteeth@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 05:44:13 JST
june
@Gargron I use firefox almost exclusively but claiming its just as fast isnt true. its pretty close for most normal websites but chromium still beats it in terms of speed
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Dominic Hopton (grork@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 07:57:08 JST
Dominic Hopton
@Gargron I always wondered if Microsoft would have been better picking Gecko as the engine to power Edge, rather than chromium.
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claasdev@mastodon.social's status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 11:00:58 JST
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@Gargron market share differentiates based on country which is interesting
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p̷o̷c̷t̷t̷o̷p̷u̷s̷ (pocttopus@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 20:32:40 JST
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@Gargron #Firefox is a good template browser... I use #arkenfox user.js or #librewolf... ☺️
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Romanovich ?? (cherepin@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 00:21:04 JST
Romanovich ??
@Gargron Just downloaded Firefox. I'll test it, maybe I'll like it. Thank you very much. Good luck and have a great day.
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Jaroslav "Řezza" Řezník (rezzabuh@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 00:23:48 JST
Jaroslav "Řezza" Řezník
@Gargron Firefox had a very good market share but at some point they lost focus and a decline started. I'm actually thinking about coming back to Firefox after years on Chrome or chromium/WebKit based browsers.
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Ryan (freakinbuttons@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 04:30:45 JST
Ryan
@Gargron what is container tabs?
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intelligentblue (intelligentblue@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 23:09:34 JST
intelligentblue
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They've been seemingly intentionally hemorrhaging users for years now, because they're alienating their core base of users by claiming that they're increasing security by disabling and completely wrecking plugins/ extensions/etc., simultaneously making the entire reason the same user base Loves firefox feel betrayed: customization and the power to control how and what happens on their own computer.In conversation permalink -
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Jay (jaystephens@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 07:34:12 JST
Jay
@Gargron @victorvicpal @agaguk also extremely common :(
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