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    Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 23:56:04 JST Eugen Rochko Eugen Rochko
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    I've switched from Chrome to Firefox about a decade ago. It's just as fast and intuitive, and container tabs are a game changer. It always catches me off guard when I see its market share is so low.

    In conversation Monday, 20-Nov-2023 23:56:04 JST from mastodon.social permalink
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      7sleepersmusic (7sleepersmusic@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 23:59:17 JST 7sleepersmusic 7sleepersmusic
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      @Gargron I work at a University, Google handles our email and a lot of other services, so we're encouraged to use Chrome. I think that's common in academia, at least here in the USA. But I use FF anyway ;-)

      In conversation Monday, 20-Nov-2023 23:59:17 JST permalink
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      Polychrome :blabcat: (polychrome@poly.cybre.city)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:00:39 JST Polychrome :blabcat: Polychrome :blabcat:
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      • Víctor Vicente-Palacios
      @victorvicpal @Gargron when I have to Chrome I Vivaldi :blobcatgooglyshrug:
      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:00:39 JST permalink
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      Víctor Vicente-Palacios (victorvicpal@dair-community.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:00:41 JST Víctor Vicente-Palacios Víctor Vicente-Palacios
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      @Gargron I use it in my personal computer and I'm not planning to change it. But professionally I have no choice but Chrome :(

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:00:41 JST permalink
      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 repeated this.
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      Avelar,Felipe (fearlipe@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:07:06 JST Avelar,Felipe Avelar,Felipe
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      @Gargron I'm stuck with safari, and i'm happy with it... The system integration with iMessages and iDevices is completely killer features.

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:07:06 JST permalink
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      Borys Pierov (ashald@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:10:20 JST Borys Pierov Borys Pierov
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      @Gargron And with Sidebery extension built on top of containers Firefox becomes simply transformative! 😍

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:10:20 JST permalink
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      Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:13:43 JST Eugen Rochko Eugen Rochko
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      • DigitalStefan

      @digitalstefan What do you mean when you say you have to use Chrome professionally? A specific website that only works in Chrome?

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:13:43 JST permalink
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      DigitalStefan (digitalstefan@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:13:44 JST DigitalStefan DigitalStefan
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      @Gargron I have no choice but to use Chrome professionally, but I also find it strange that FF has such a low share.

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:13:44 JST permalink
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      Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:14:18 JST Eugen Rochko Eugen Rochko
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      • Víctor Vicente-Palacios
      • Agaguk

      @victorvicpal @agaguk Oh. That’s rough.

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:14:18 JST permalink
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      Víctor Vicente-Palacios (victorvicpal@dair-community.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:14:26 JST Víctor Vicente-Palacios Víctor Vicente-Palacios
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      • Agaguk

      @agaguk @Gargron My company won't let me have firefox. There is no reason, but I have no way to install it unless I can justify it in a way that is irrevocable.

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:14:26 JST permalink
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      Agaguk (agaguk@mstdn.ca)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:14:32 JST Agaguk Agaguk
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      • Víctor Vicente-Palacios

      @victorvicpal @Gargron why do you have to work with chrome 😲?

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:14:32 JST permalink
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      Tomcat🇺🇦🇮🇱 (woodcat@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:14:36 JST Tomcat🇺🇦🇮🇱 Tomcat🇺🇦🇮🇱
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      @Gargron There's nothing to be surprised about. It's a consequence of their policy when support for old extensions was discontinued. Their attitude towards users is disgusting.

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:14:36 JST permalink
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      bartosz 🚲🌳🐍 (btel@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:16:59 JST bartosz 🚲🌳🐍 bartosz 🚲🌳🐍
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      @Gargron same here. I use FF on my private laptop and my phone bu at work I am forced to use Chrome, I never understood why 🤷♂️

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:16:59 JST permalink
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      Omer Balamir :tapbots_logo: (omerb@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:17:18 JST Omer Balamir :tapbots_logo: Omer Balamir :tapbots_logo:
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      @Gargron No one using Opera? I’m happy with it in my Windows machine.

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:17:18 JST permalink
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      David Schmidt (individual8@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:19:23 JST David Schmidt David Schmidt
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      @Gargron "as fast and intuitive" probably not a convincing argument and "container tabs" an unknown and too advanced feature.

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:19:23 JST permalink
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      OddOpinions5 (failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:36:07 JST OddOpinions5 OddOpinions5
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      @Gargron

      maybe this is just me, but over the last year or so, I have observed that many websites for large corporations (large) don't work with FireFox

      YMMV

      I am NOT a programmer, but this seems to me reasonable: you can't expect a bank or some such to cater to every browser

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:36:07 JST permalink
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      Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:36:07 JST Eugen Rochko Eugen Rochko
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      • OddOpinions5

      @failedLyndonLaRouchite Actually, you can, because the web is built on standard technologies that are not unique to a specific browser. So the bank does not have to worry about every specific browser as long as they follow the standards correctly.

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 00:36:07 JST permalink
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      Stone1glo (stone1glo@newsie.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 01:25:13 JST Stone1glo Stone1glo
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      • kopio
      • Víctor Vicente-Palacios

      @kopio @victorvicpal @Gargron

      I’m trying Vivaldi. Anyone know any problems with it?

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 01:25:13 JST permalink
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      Brendan Jones (brendanjones@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 01:25:13 JST Brendan Jones Brendan Jones
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      • kopio
      • Víctor Vicente-Palacios
      • Stone1glo

      @Stone1glo

      It's built on Chromium, which is for better or worse maintained by Google. They've certainly been trying to do some fishy stuff lately.

      @kopio @victorvicpal @Gargron

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 01:25:13 JST permalink
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      kopio (kopio@mas.to)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 01:25:14 JST kopio kopio
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      • Víctor Vicente-Palacios

      @victorvicpal @Gargron I have 5 browsers on my computer, mostly for work, one because I'm too lazy to get rid of Edge.

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 01:25:14 JST permalink
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      SJTheGreat06 (sjthegreat06@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 01:29:24 JST SJTheGreat06 SJTheGreat06
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      @Gargron You're not alone Eugen...

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 01:29:24 JST permalink
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      Rishu Srivastava (rishusrivastava@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 02:31:59 JST Rishu Srivastava Rishu Srivastava
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      @Gargron How's firefox better than chrome?

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 02:31:59 JST permalink
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      Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 02:38:33 JST Eugen Rochko Eugen Rochko
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      • Rishu Srivastava

      @rishusrivastava Besides being just as good in terms of performance and ease of use, Firefox uses less memory and does not belong to an advertising company which is increasingly using its near-monopoly to make ads harder to avoid.

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 02:38:33 JST permalink
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      sully1503 (sully1503@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 03:09:42 JST sully1503 sully1503
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      @Gargron Honestly, I switched over to Edge from Firefox, professionally, and they have one feature that would keep me from ever going back. I can split the screen, two tabs open on one screen, and then link them so any link I open on the right opens on the left. Does so many wonders for some applications. Personally, I use Sidekick.

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 03:09:42 JST permalink
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      FruitInTheRoom (fruitintheroom@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 03:14:37 JST FruitInTheRoom FruitInTheRoom
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      • FruitInTheRoom

      @Gargron Hey Eugen, I've been using Firefox for years, don't let that market share crap worry you. As long as Linux Mint promotes it it should stick around. Cheers @FruitInTheRoom

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 03:14:37 JST permalink
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      /home/Leo/mastodon (leochavez@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 03:45:41 JST /home/Leo/mastodon /home/Leo/mastodon
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      @Gargron #Firefox has had its ups and downs where speed and reliability are concerned, but I’ve stuck with it since the Netscape days. Then to Phoenix, and now Firefox.
      I don’t think there’s any getting off this train for me 😂

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 03:45:41 JST permalink
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      DaySleeper 💚 (digitalstepchild@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 03:46:12 JST DaySleeper 💚 DaySleeper 💚
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      @Gargron
      Big fan of Firefox for 15 years. A friend introduced me to it back then.
      Friend is long gone, browser ist still there. 😄

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 03:46:12 JST permalink
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      RoyalQuack (royalquack@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 03:50:31 JST RoyalQuack RoyalQuack
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      @Gargron I absolutely love Firefox! I really don’t understand how so little people don’t even know what it is?!

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 03:50:31 JST permalink
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      Ruben Capiau (rubencapiau@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 03:55:05 JST Ruben Capiau Ruben Capiau
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      @Gargron The Chrome team has resumed the transition to Manifest v3 and explicitly decided NOT to support the the blocking version of webRequest anymore 🚫 (https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/chromium-extensions/c/X-aHqPOKcQU).

      So from mid 2️⃣0️⃣2️⃣4️⃣, extensions in #Chrome need to be based on #MV3 and will be limited 📉 in what they can do (the powerful content blocker #uBlock Origin can't be fully ported: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-asked-questions-(FAQ)#filtering-capabilities-which-cant-be-ported-to-mv3).

      #Firefox retains webRequest blocking in MV3 👍 (https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2022/10/31/begin-your-mv3-migration-by-implementing-new-features-today/).
      ➡️ Choose #wisely and spread the word!

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 03:55:05 JST permalink

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      Fradie (fradie_new@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 04:22:58 JST Fradie Fradie
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      @Gargron
      I also use Firefox because it has its own engine - #Google otherwise has a monopoly with #Chrome, while #Mozilla continues to use #Gecko. And I mean, #Firefox is very fast if it doesn't have 200 add-ons running...

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 04:22:58 JST permalink
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      Mitch Wagner (mitchw@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 04:40:25 JST Mitch Wagner Mitch Wagner
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      @Gargron What's great about container tabs?

      I'm trying out Firefox the past couple of days. Looks good, but as a Mac user, I find Safari to be a good choice too.

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 04:40:25 JST permalink
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      Bullwong (bullwong@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 05:12:04 JST Bullwong Bullwong
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      @Gargron Firefox is so much more user friendly, let alone the fact that it doesn't have the spyware Chrome does.

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 05:12:04 JST permalink
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      Ian Channing 🦈 (ianchanning@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 05:27:36 JST Ian Channing 🦈 Ian Channing 🦈
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      @Gargron I use Firefox the same way I use duckduckgo. It works for 90% of everything I need, then fall back to Chromium. My one case where I use Chrome is the microphone for Google meet. My ThinkPad inbuilt microphone sounds terrible with FF but OK with Chrome. I used headphones for a while, but no one else in the team does so switched to without.

      Container tabs are awesome as are tab groups, as is rust. It's scary when something so good has so little market share

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 05:27:36 JST permalink
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      Brendan Jones (brendanjones@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 05:36:19 JST Brendan Jones Brendan Jones
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      • WildEnte
      • Stone1glo

      @WildEnte @Stone1glo @Vivaldi Google, not Vivaldi.

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 05:36:19 JST permalink
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      WildEnte (wildente@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 05:36:20 JST WildEnte WildEnte
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      • Vivaldi
      • Stone1glo

      @Brendanjones @Stone1glo
      Care to say what fishy stuff @Vivaldi supposedly has tried lately? I follow them quite closely and I have no idea what you might be talking about.

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 05:36:20 JST permalink
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      june (lilacteeth@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 05:44:13 JST june june
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      @Gargron I use firefox almost exclusively but claiming its just as fast isnt true. its pretty close for most normal websites but chromium still beats it in terms of speed

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 05:44:13 JST permalink
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      Dominic Hopton (grork@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 07:57:08 JST Dominic Hopton Dominic Hopton
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      @Gargron I always wondered if Microsoft would have been better picking Gecko as the engine to power Edge, rather than chromium.

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 07:57:08 JST permalink
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      claasdev@mastodon.social's status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 11:00:58 JST claasdev claasdev
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      @Gargron market share differentiates based on country which is interesting

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 11:00:58 JST permalink
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      p̷o̷c̷t̷t̷o̷p̷u̷s̷ (pocttopus@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 20:32:40 JST p̷o̷c̷t̷t̷o̷p̷u̷s̷ p̷o̷c̷t̷t̷o̷p̷u̷s̷
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      @Gargron #Firefox is a good template browser... I use #arkenfox user.js or #librewolf... ☺️

      In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 20:32:40 JST permalink
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      Romanovich ?? (cherepin@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 00:21:04 JST Romanovich ?? Romanovich ??
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      @Gargron Just downloaded Firefox. I'll test it, maybe I'll like it. Thank you very much. Good luck and have a great day.

      In conversation Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 00:21:04 JST permalink
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      Jaroslav "Řezza" Řezník (rezzabuh@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 00:23:48 JST Jaroslav "Řezza" Řezník Jaroslav "Řezza" Řezník
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      @Gargron Firefox had a very good market share but at some point they lost focus and a decline started. I'm actually thinking about coming back to Firefox after years on Chrome or chromium/WebKit based browsers.

      In conversation Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 00:23:48 JST permalink
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      Ryan (freakinbuttons@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 04:30:45 JST Ryan Ryan
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      @Gargron what is container tabs?

      In conversation Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 04:30:45 JST permalink
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      intelligentblue (intelligentblue@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 23:09:34 JST intelligentblue intelligentblue
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      @Gargron
      @Gargron
      They've been seemingly intentionally hemorrhaging users for years now, because they're alienating their core base of users by claiming that they're increasing security by disabling and completely wrecking plugins/ extensions/etc., simultaneously making the entire reason the same user base Loves firefox feel betrayed: customization and the power to control how and what happens on their own computer.

      In conversation Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 23:09:34 JST permalink
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      Jay Stephens (jaystephens@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 07:34:12 JST Jay Stephens Jay Stephens
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      • Víctor Vicente-Palacios
      • Agaguk

      @Gargron @victorvicpal @agaguk also extremely common :(
      I'm at a place where I can choose my browser for the first time in many years.

      In conversation Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 07:34:12 JST permalink

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