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   mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2023 05:49:16 JST mcc

   IT WOULD APPEAR THAT 20 MINUTES BEFORE MY STREAM, UBUNTU PUSHED AN UPDATE (edit: not true, it's even more ridiculous than that, see end of thread) THAT BROKE GDM ON THE LAPTOP I WAS GOING TO BE STREAMING FROM, EFFECTIVELY BRICKING THE LAPTOP

   I AM VERY, *VERY* DISAPPOINTED IN MY ONE MONTH OF USING UBUNTU SO FAR

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     mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2023 05:49:16 JST mcc

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     Since I started streaming I am AMAZED at the extent to which if you have one three hour period per week you need your computers to work precisely on time, your computers will find ways to break in the ten minutes before that three hours begins

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     mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2023 05:50:10 JST mcc

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     The horror increases:

     Ubuntu actually installs Fuse version 3 by default. However, if you already have Fuse version 3 installed, which you do, and you tell it to install "fuse", it will REMOVE fuse version 3 (and in the process uninstall several vital system components) and install fuse version 2 (which doesn't work) in its place.

     EVEN ON LINUX, THIS IS NOT A GOTCHA THAT USERS SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO WITH NO WARNING THAT THE SYSTEM IS ABOUT TO DO SOMETHING UNUSUAL.

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     mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2023 05:50:10 JST mcc

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     Me: Computer, please install fuse

     Linux: Got it, uninstalling fuse.

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     mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2023 05:50:10 JST mcc

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     This is the second time since beginning use with modern ubuntu that installing a package has uninstalled a seemingly-unrelated, vital system component and this was not something I feel like you had to keep an eye out with the older Linux GUI distributions I used in the 00s.

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     mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2023 05:50:11 JST mcc

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     Like apparently if you install fuse via apt (this is a very normal package, it is required to run appimages for example) your system is now in a zombie state where it will work UNTIL you next enter gdm (for example because the computer went to sleep) at which point the entire GUI part of your computer is permanently dead

     Almost as if… installing fuse… lights a fuse!!!

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     mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2023 05:50:12 JST mcc

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     UPDATE: IT WASN'T THE PUSHED AUTOUPDATE AT ALL. IT TURNS OUT THAT THE ACTUAL PROBLEM WAS ABOUT AN HOUR BEFORE THE PROBLEM I TOLD APT TO INSTALL "FUSE". APPARENTLY IN CURRENT UBUNTU, INSTALLING "FUSE" VIA APT CAUSES THE OPERATING SYSTEM TO COMMIT SUICIDE. THIS IS A KNOWN ISSUE WHICH IS CURRENTLY "UNASSIGNED". THE PROBLEM, AS WELL AS A ONE-LINE FIX THAT WORKED FOR ME, ARE DOCUMENTED HERE https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1717878

     MY WRATH IS UNABATED BUT MY STREAM WILL BEGIN IN ABOUT FOUR MINUTES, I GUESS

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     mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2023 05:50:13 JST mcc

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     Update: *arms deep in debian log files* I am upset

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     GreenSkyOverMe (Monika) (greenskyoverme@ohai.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2023 05:58:51 JST GreenSkyOverMe (Monika)

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     @mcc Fascinating problem.

     We had once a case in the kubuntu-de.org forum that someone installed a package for connecting to their Android phone and this deinstalled the video driver.

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     GreenSkyOverMe (Monika) (greenskyoverme@ohai.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2023 06:02:04 JST GreenSkyOverMe (Monika)

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     • Marc Haber

     @Zugschlus Marc: no!

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     Marc Haber (zugschlus@zug.network)'s status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2023 06:02:07 JST Marc Haber

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     • GreenSkyOverMe (Monika)

     @mcc
     @GreenSkyOverMe Why not stick with Debian in the first place?