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nugger@poa.st's status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 09:56:59 JST nugger @udongle @DrRyanSkelton @moffintosh ITS NOT THAT SOCIALISM FAILED TO CRITIQUE CAPITALISM, ITS THAT THERE HAS TO BE AN "AND THEREFORE" PROPOSED ALTERNATIVE THAT SOLVES THE ISSUES OUTLINED IN THE CRITIQUE
EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHER WERE LOOKING AT THE TEN THOUSAND POUND GORILLA OF INDUSTRIAL CAPITAL WRECKING THE PRE-INDUSTRIAL SOCIAL ORDER, THINKING "WELL THAT AIN'T GOOD, CLEARLY THE NEW TECH IS CREATING PRESSURES TOWARD ANTISOCIAL BEHAVIORS, CHINESE OPIUM STYLE"
AND THEY PROPOSED SOLUTIONS OF DIFFERENT STRIPES
SCALED UP MEDIEVAL GUILDS, CLASS COLLABORATION, UTOPIANS WERE DOING THEIR RETARD SHIT IN AMERICA
THEN ALONG CAME KARL MARX AND STOLE A BIT FROM EVERYONE AND THEN SAID NO IM GONNA MAKE A SCIENCE OUT OF IT
AS WAS THE STYLE AT THE TIME
AND BASICALLY THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS MATERIAL CONDITIONS AND THE SOLUTION IS TO RABBLE ROUSE AND TRY TO SEIZE POWER UNTIL CONDITIONS IMPROVE
IF THEY FAIL TO IMPROVE AS A RESULT THAT JUST MEANS YOU HADNT WRECKED ENOUGH SHIT- DrRyanSkelton likes this.
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Dr.AlbinoMutant PHD Critical Zionist Studies (albinomutant@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 10:23:40 JST Dr.AlbinoMutant PHD Critical Zionist Studies @shortstories @nugger @moffintosh @DrRyanSkelton @udongle yes. The solution is the kill more people and smash more things. Marxism has great critique, but no real solutions, so it naturally appeals to people who are simply interested in power at all costs, and dont care how much suffering they cause to get it. ?? Humpleupagus ?? likes this. -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 10:23:40 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? NPC Marxists don't understand Marxism. It's highly influenced by Kantian metaphysics and the transcendental aesthetic, though corrupted in both instances. NPC Marxists aren't the genius philosophers they pretend to be, they just want free stuff. -
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shortstories@merovingian.club's status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 10:23:41 JST shortstories @nugger @moffintosh @DrRyanSkelton @udongle
So they are saying if it is broke then broke it more to fix it and if that does not work break it even further?
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DrRyanSkelton (drryanskelton@mugicha.club)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 10:27:07 JST DrRyanSkelton I have heard it summarized as an eternal revolution. Capitalism toppled monarchy, so you need to topple capitalism and just keep toppling what comes after but I haven't read this shit myself. -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 10:36:32 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? I think the real thing that marx hit on was the idea of alienation of labor, and perhaps to use a later Heideggerian term, the way alienating labor can cause a person to become inauthentic. This is real. We've all seen it or even felt it's pull at times.
Nonetheless, I don't know how you get from there to "communism." It's very jewish and non-german.
I think real Germanics, like Kant, Heidegger, and Nietzsche, would say... to paraphrase in a thick California accent, do what you can to maintain authenticity. If you become inauthentic, that's on you. Society as a whole is not to blame. The individual is the nucleus of culture and all things come from within each.DrRyanSkelton likes this. -
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Dr.AlbinoMutant PHD Critical Zionist Studies (albinomutant@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 10:37:57 JST Dr.AlbinoMutant PHD Critical Zionist Studies @DrRyanSkelton @moffintosh @Humpleupagus @shortstories @udongle @nugger yeah. In the end, marxism is a strategy to grab power and nothing more. -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 10:37:57 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? Absolutely. There's a reason the jews shipped it into Russia. They already had their thumb on Germany. Russia was a threat. -
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Dr.AlbinoMutant PHD Critical Zionist Studies (albinomutant@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 10:42:20 JST Dr.AlbinoMutant PHD Critical Zionist Studies @Humpleupagus @moffintosh @shortstories @DrRyanSkelton @udongle @nugger ironically, eastern europe was economically backward precisely because so much of the wealth was locked up into a jewish circular economy DrRyanSkelton likes this. -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 17:56:21 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? Point proven. -
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Moffin'tosh (moffintosh@berserker.town)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 17:56:22 JST Moffin'tosh It's highly influenced by Kantian metaphysics and the transcendental aesthetic
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Moffin'tosh (moffintosh@berserker.town)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 17:56:32 JST Moffin'tosh NPC Marxists don't understand Marxism.
Nonetheless, I don't know how you get from there to "communism."
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 17:57:02 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? This a community meme about you now. -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 18:00:52 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? *States that it's a perfect logical contradiction, missed the part where I said it was a corruption of kant*
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Moffin'tosh (moffintosh@berserker.town)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 18:00:53 JST Moffin'tosh @Humpleupagus Marxism is basically the complete opposite of Kant, you have no idea of what are you even talking about
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Moffin'tosh (moffintosh@berserker.town)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 18:01:02 JST Moffin'tosh -
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Moffin'tosh (moffintosh@berserker.town)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 18:03:43 JST Moffin'tosh @Humpleupagus
To be a corruption of something, it needs to at least preserve it's method. By your metric, anything can be a corruption of Kant