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   THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD (icon_of_computational_sin@mstdn.starnix.network)'s status on Friday, 10-Nov-2023 04:05:10 JST THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD

   Do any of you, my fellow deranged fedi schizo soldiers, use SSH over Tor? How usable is it? Is mosh a necessity or can I just yolo it?

   The story is usual. I have a server behind a few NATs and I don't want to bother with port forwarding.

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     @icon_of_computational_sin This sounds extremely schizophrenic

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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 10-Nov-2023 04:17:29 JST 

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     @icon_of_computational_sin Isn't mosh UDP-only? Both exit nodes and hidden services can only do TCP. Aside from that, it's the usual setup as for everything with bad connection and high latency. Add ClientAliveInterval to your sshd_config so that your session won't break after a few soconds without new text, and use screen/tmux/whatever for any tasks taking longer than 10 seconds.
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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 10-Nov-2023 04:18:32 JST 

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     @icon_of_computational_sin You might also consider yggdrasil-network.github.io if you don't need all the onion routing at the expense of stability and latency.
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     re_l@ryona.agency's status on Friday, 10-Nov-2023 04:34:09 JST Re_L

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     There's also the duct tape solution of local port forwarding one of the ssh ports from the machine behind NAT to a server. Keep the forward alive with something like autossh.
     But @mint 's solution is more elegant.
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     @mint wait what? I thought mosh was a clever wrapper around ssh that negated latency somehow. Ah welp...

     Just tested it. The latency isn't that bad, maybe a second or so. With emacs+tramp for configs things should be doable.

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     @mint thanks, I'll consider it. For now, I want a solution that I have at least some experience with. And I've used Tor waaaaay more than Yggdrasil.

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     iwojima (iwojima@mk.phreedom.club)'s status on Friday, 10-Nov-2023 15:09:55 JST iwojima

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     @icon_of_computational_sin@mstdn.starnix.network use SSH over Tor? How usable is it?it work fine
     
     on remote side:
     1.start ssh server
     2.configure ssh hidden service in torrc
     3.start tor service
     4.check onion name in /var/lib/tor/data/hidden_services/hostname
     
     on local side:
     1.connect to tor
     2.open ssh session over tor socks proxy
     ssh user@hostname.onion -o "ProxyCommand=nc -X 5 -x 127.0.0.1:9050 %h %p"
     if local side on widows - use putty
     
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