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   FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2023 02:56:23 JST FediTips has moved!

   In case you missed it, Mastodon and the Fediverse have groups, which are really useful for discovering conversations on specific topics. They work equally well on all servers.

   Find out more info on how to use them at:

   ➡️ https://fedi.tips/how-to-use-groups-on-the-fediverse/

   If you're looking for groups to join, I curate a list at:

   ➡️ https://fedi.directory/tag/fediverse-groups/

   If groups are too busy and overwhelming your Home timeline, you can split them off into their own timelines using Mastodon's Lists feature:

   ➡️ https://fedi.tips/how-to-use-the-lists-feature-on-mastodon/

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     • petrescatraian

     @petrescatraian

     If you know of a group you want to recommend, send me a message.

     "However, currently, Lemmy is the second platform in the Fediverse in number of active users after Mastodon."

     Numbers make no difference, might doesn't mean right. The devs are allowing really awful things to be spread on their servers.

     Large numbers just mean the developers of Lemmy have even more influence and funding.

     I'd recommend instead putting that funding into alternatives such as Kbin.

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     petrescatraian (petrescatraian@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2023 03:57:49 JST petrescatraian

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     @feditips I have two questions:

     1. Is there a way I can suggest a few groups to the list? I've come to a point where I'm following groups all across the Fediverse 😁
     2. I understood your stance on Lemmy, and I share the same opinion about the Lemmy devs and their 2 servers, having 1st hand experience with one of them. However, currently, Lemmy is the second platform in the Fediverse in number of active users after Mastodon.
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     @petrescatraian

     Lemmy is not going to get better if more people use it. The Lemmy devs will just get worse as their influence grows.

     I will not promote any platform run by them. (I used to promote Lemmy until they revealed their true colours.)

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     @petrescatraian

     If more people use a FOSS platform, that platform's developers inevitably get more influence and tend to get more funding. That's how FOSS works, and that's usually not a problem.

     In this particular case it (in my opinion) is a problem.

     If development was done by someone else, for example through a fork, that might solve things.

     For example, that's what happened when Audacity's owners went bad and the software was forked to @tenacity.

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     petrescatraian (petrescatraian@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2023 04:43:09 JST petrescatraian

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     @feditips@mstdn.social wrote:

     If you know of a group you want to recommend, send me a message.

     I have quite some tons of them, so brace yourself 😁

     Numbers make no difference, might doesn't mean right. The devs are allowing really awful things to be spread on their servers.

     Right, but it seems people are aware of this, which is why the biggest server and the most interesting content seems to be somewhere else (e.g. lemmy.world is the largest Lemmy server out there, which is not owned by any of the Lemmy devs. There is also @piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com which is really active and is created by one of r/piracy's former admins).

     There are basically people that had no prior link with none of the main devs, nor they do support their views, yet they just wanted to find a better, more reliable refuge after the whole u/spez saga, and Lemmy happened to be the most reliable for them.

     Again, I respect your opinion, but if you'll want to reconsider your choice in the future, that would be much appreciated as well. 😁

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     • Leraje

     @leraje @petrescatraian

     Kbin is in really early stages, but if it's given time and resources it could be really good.

     If you use a platform, that gives the platform's developers influence and power. That's why for example Eugen was being interviewed on CNN etc.

     " Mastodon on the other hand has plenty of toxic instances and yet you're both on and promoting its use."

     It's not about toxic instances existing, it's about toxic instances being run and promoted by Lemmy's developers.

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     Leraje (leraje@satanic.nexus)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2023 05:01:01 JST Leraje

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     @feditips@mstdn.social @petrescatraian@libranet.de KBin is an unmoderated mess. So much so it's already been forked (MBin).
     
     I don't understand your reluctance to promote Lemmy - the developers being tankies (which I'm assuming is the root of your dislike) are nothing to do with how the platform is used by non-tankies. Mastodon on the other hand has plenty of toxic instances and yet you're both on and promoting its use.

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     @leraje @petrescatraian

     If Eugen was running and advertising a server like Lemmygrad, I would never be using Mastodon.

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     @petrescatraian

     "if you'll want to reconsider your choice in the future"

     No. I'm not going to be reconsidering it.

     I'm not a techie, I'm not here because of the tech.

     I'm here because I think the Fediverse is an opportunity to protect human rights, at least a tiny bit. (Look at what Facebook has done, for example: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/06/rohingya-sue-facebook-myanmar-genocide-us-uk-legal-action-social-media-violence)

     I will never support anyone that trashes human rights.

     That's why I was advising admins to pre-emptively block Facebook Threads, for example.

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     @leraje @petrescatraian

     "They'll still be tankie idiots even if BBC profile them."

     That's not how it works. The more often someone is seen in a prominent position, the more legitimacy they receive in the eyes of the public and their followers.

     "Surely thats what matters - the quality of the content, not who develops it."

     The developers don't make the content, they make the framework that displays the content. They also promote specific instances on the platform's official site.

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     Leraje (leraje@satanic.nexus)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2023 06:04:12 JST Leraje

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     @feditips@mstdn.social @petrescatraian@libranet.de Ernst has done as good a job as he possibly can with KBin but his instance is a mess as he doesn't have time to Admin it. There's some very toxic communities on there. MBin seems to be taking a much more open and constructive development path.
     
     re: Lemmy developers - who cares? It's impossible to live in the modern world without using/owning something made by awful people. They'll still be tankie idiots even if BBC profile them. Doesn't lend them as people any legitimacy whatsoever. And in the meantime, your stance is unfairly excluding people putting in a lot of work and effort to make good instances and Communities on those instances.
     
     Surely thats what matters - the quality of the content, not who develops it.

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     @leraje @petrescatraian

     "Surely the best 'revenge' against bad people is to use their product for good things?"

     No, because FOSS depends on the users supporting the developers.

     The more people use a FOSS project, the more donations and visibility that project tends to receive.

     And the more users that software has, the easier it is for its developers to apply for grants from charities, government schemes etc.

     Using it legitimises the developers, it doesn't harm them at all.

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     Leraje (leraje@satanic.nexus)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2023 06:57:32 JST Leraje

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     @feditips@mstdn.social @petrescatraian@libranet.de well, I would. I would just think he was an idiot, not use his instance and join one that was doing some good things. Because the opinions of a developer of a piece of software that isn't profit motivated is largely irrelevant to me.
     
     Surely the best 'revenge' against bad people is to use their product for good things? That's the mindset of the vast majority of Lemmy instance owners and that's what defederation is for.