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Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 07:41:23 JST Sexy Moon

the ukraine war quietly killed the american claim of "troop readiness standards don't matter because in the future war will just be pushing a button"

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  Caek Islove ? ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 07:43:40 JST Caek Islove ? ❤️
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  @Moon It dramatically increases the risk of future nuclear exchanges because it's painfully obvious that the USA would get blown the fuck out in a direct conventional war against either/or China or Russia.
  
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  PoalackJokes88 (poalackjokes88@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Nov-2023 05:41:53 JST PoalackJokes88
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  @caekislove @Amikke @Moon Tanks are like carriers. They're not useless but they're not ideal either. Western doctrine has overemphasized them because they're not actually serious about warfighting but instead over intraservice rivalries, just like the fighter/carrier jocks have largely prevailed over submarines. Soviet doctrine has known for a long time that artillery is king, and that it's better to attack from above than front on. Even before the era of guided ATGMs, artillery could crush tank formations as long as they had targeting info.
  
  linkedin.com/posts/benconnable_who-says-dumb-artillery-rounds-cant-kill-activity-6929946388948545536-KGeX
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    Ben Connable on LinkedIn: Who Says Dumb Artillery Rounds Can't Kill Armor?
    
    Can old-school artillery kill tanks? Check out this 4-page (with pictures) 2002 article describing the Army's 1988 Soviet Artillery Effects study. Recent…
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  Caek Islove ? ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Nov-2023 05:41:54 JST Caek Islove ? ❤️
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  @Amikke @Moon I think the main reason for that is tank warfare. It's hopelessly obsolete yet every "world power" insists on building and using tanks which are easily yeeted using IEDs, handheld infantry weapons and now drones.
  
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  Amikke (amikke@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Nov-2023 05:41:56 JST Amikke
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  @caekislove @Moon it’s been painfully obvious ever since they lost a war against a much smaller bunch of rice farmers running around the jungle with AKs. I don’t think they’re even close to Russia’s level of delusion to believe otherwise. Though this only applies to aggression, it seems that no current major power can win a conventional aggressive war against any other, they all can defend themselves.
  
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  PoalackJokes88 (poalackjokes88@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Nov-2023 05:46:13 JST PoalackJokes88
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  @McMongoose @caekislove @Shlomo @Moon One madlad kept dashing their Greater Israel war plans and saved the lives of 20,000 Americans.
  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002 :
  "In a preemptive strike, Red launched a massive salvo of cruise missiles that overwhelmed the Blue forces' electronic sensors and destroyed sixteen warships: one aircraft carrier, ten cruisers and five of Blue's six amphibious ships. An equivalent success in a real conflict would have resulted in the deaths of over 20,000 service personnel. Soon after the cruise missile offensive, another significant portion of Blue's navy was "sunk" by an armada of small Red boats, which carried out both conventional and suicide attacks that capitalized on Blue's inability to detect them as well as expected."
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    Millennium Challenge 2002
    
    Millennium Challenge 2002 (MC02) was a major war game exercise conducted by the United States Armed Forces in mid-2002. The exercise, which ran from 24 July to 15 August and cost US$250 million (equivalent to about $407M in 2022), involved both live exercises and computer simulations. MC02 was meant to be a test of future military "transformation"—a transition toward new technologies that enable network-centric warfare and provide more effective command and control of current and future weaponry and tactics. The simulated combatants were the United States, referred to as "Blue", and a fictitious state in the Persian Gulf, "Red", often characterized as Iran or Iraq. Constraints Since the wargame allowed for a ship-to-shore landing of ground troops at some (unknown) point during the 14 day exercise, and because their naval force was substantial, the Blue force was positioned on the shore-side of the region's active shipping lanes to keep them from impacting commerce during the exercise. This placed them near the Red shore rather than at a "standoff" distance. Conducting the wargames during peacetime also meant...
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  Mong (mcmongoose@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Nov-2023 05:46:14 JST Mong
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  The US could never take on Iran, they really wanted to after Iraq but they kept losing the wargames
  
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  Caek Islove ? ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Nov-2023 05:46:15 JST Caek Islove ? ❤️
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  @Shlomo @Moon I don't even think the USA could take Iran, at this point. Our military is in shambles and even worse we've sent all the stockpiles to Ukraine and replenishing them will take years.
  
  Our industrial supply chains were crippled by a respiratory disease. How could they possibly function in a scenario where enemy subs are sinking container ships?
  
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  Shlomo (shlomo@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Nov-2023 05:46:16 JST Shlomo
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  @caekislove @Moon >it's painfully obvious that the USA would get blown the fuck out in a direct conventional war against either/or China or Russia.
  SOMEBODY HIT THE STRIKE ORDER NOW
  
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  Caek Islove ? ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Nov-2023 07:38:44 JST Caek Islove ? ❤️
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  @PoalackJokes88 @McMongoose @Shlomo @Moon I love how Team Blue's defenders like to declare the results invalid because "the Iranians aren't smart enough to have used those tactics". 🙄
  
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  PoalackJokes88 (poalackjokes88@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Nov-2023 07:40:42 JST PoalackJokes88
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  @caekislove @McMongoose @Shlomo @Moon Then they're shocked when Hamas trumps them by simply not using western cell phones.
  
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