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   Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 07:42:59 JST Evan Prodromou

   • M. Grégoire

   @mpjgregoire yeah, sorry, I am aware that Duterte is authoritarian. I'm not sure that the Philippines is still a functioning democracy.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2023 12:09:50 JST Evan Prodromou

     So, this is kind of the "Read 'Hillbilly Elegy'" argument.

     I don't think this actually happened in the US, at least in the sense of America's eroding manufacturing base, yadda yadda.

     I'm somewhat agree.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2023 12:10:47 JST Evan Prodromou

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     I guess I have been wondering about it w/r/t Israel. They've been almost, barely, electing Benjamin Netanyahu off and on for 16 years. And if anything

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2023 23:13:23 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Stephen Michael Kellat

     @alpacaherder yes. There was a fad immediately after the 2016 election recommending people read HE to better understand what happened. I think it mostly clever marketing.

     https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/dec/07/hillbilly-elegy-by-jd-vance-review

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     Stephen Michael Kellat (alpacaherder@ubuntu.social)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2023 23:13:24 JST Stephen Michael Kellat

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     @evan The author of “Hillbilly Elegy” is one of my state’s two United States Senators. He’s a bit of a nutter who tries to satisfy an increasingly unhinged base. I voted for Tim Ryan with no regrets.

     As to the needs of people who elect authoritarian leaders like JD Vance, those are questions I live with every day. Usually I want to either withdraw or run away. This isn’t the most pleasant of times.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 03:51:05 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Dave Neary

     @dneary I guess the political question is, what do Israeli voters need that they think Netanyahu can provide? And what can the rest of the world do to give it to them, so they stop electing him?

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     Dave Neary (dneary@mathstodon.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 03:51:06 JST Dave Neary

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     @evan Tzipi Livni was the best Prime Minister that Israel never had 😞 Her inability to form a government in 2008, and after the 2009 election, condemned Israel to 15 years of Netanyahu.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 03:56:05 JST Evan Prodromou

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     There are only a few examples of countries around the world that have mostly-functioning electoral systems that have elected authoritarian nationalists over the last decade or so. The US, Israel, Brazil, Poland, maybe Hungary. There are plenty of other places with authoritarian governments that don't have anything close to working electoral systems, so they're less conducive to analysing what the electorate's needs are.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 21:19:55 JST Evan Prodromou

     • M. Grégoire

     @mpjgregoire It didn't come to mind. Do you think it's an authoritarian government in a country with a functioning electoral system?

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 08:22:01 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • M. Grégoire

     @mpjgregoire here's the Freedom House report:

     https://freedomhouse.org/country/philippines/freedom-world/2023