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   CJ Bellwether (siege@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 09:21:26 JST CJ Bellwether

   BBC Article on Danny Boyle's soon to come out The Matrix: The Musical!

   "When he watched The Matrix when it came out in 1999, (Danny) Boyle admits some of its themes went over his head.

   "I loved it," he says. "I was a bit baffled, to be honest, and it's kind of swum into view - it's got clearer and clearer in the 20-odd years since it came out.

   "You think, 'Oh my God, it's quite accurate, really, what it's talking about.'""

   Oh boy, cant wait to scroll down and read how much he doesnt get the movie.

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     CJ Bellwether (siege@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 09:24:54 JST CJ Bellwether

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     Matrix! The Musical:
     Have you ever thought maybe like you know we're already in the Matrix? Look around you man, open your eyes, are we in charge of technology or is technology in charge of us?!

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     CJ Bellwether (siege@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 09:34:48 JST CJ Bellwether

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     the first bit where they literally quote Wachowski laying out what her film is about, i was like oh shit wait Mr Boyle is actually going to make a giant theatre show about the transgender experience loosely wrapped in a sci fi metaphor?

     Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is one of my favourite films.

     Frankenstein is probably the most expensive theatre show ive seen that i disliked.

     This all feels too on the nose that a cis guys making a matrix show and thinks its actually even remotely about AI.

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     CJ Bellwether (siege@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 09:40:57 JST CJ Bellwether

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     Danny its about coming out as Transgender and how people breaking that gender boundary gives rise to Fascism because of society's need for comfort outweighing the value of trans life.

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     CJ Bellwether (siege@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 09:45:28 JST CJ Bellwether

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     • Alexandra Magin 🏳️‍🌈

     @recursive maybe The Lavender Pill

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     Alexandra Magin 🏳️‍🌈 (recursive@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 09:45:29 JST Alexandra Magin 🏳️‍🌈

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     @siege Somewhere out there there must be a genuinely great Matrix fanfic titled "Teal Pill"

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     taber (taber@woof.group)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 09:47:58 JST taber

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     @siege imagining Danny Boyle opening his mailbox and he just has like sixty postcards that say "Danny. It's about being transgender" in different peoples' handwriting

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     CJ Bellwether (siege@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 09:47:58 JST CJ Bellwether

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     • taber

     @taber yeah like he gives a bit of basic 101 lip service where hes says a bit about how non-binary the casting was trying to be. Which kinda feels like he watched a top 10 things you didnt know about The Matrix on youtube.

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     CJ Bellwether (siege@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 09:53:50 JST CJ Bellwether

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     Its not about how AI is taking over or how robots are going to stuff humans into a simulated reality, or that we might already be in a simulated reality.

     Its just about how trans people go through intense trauma from divorcement from their internal needs that the brains response is to dissociate from the world so nothing feels real and pretransition they will literally take part in simulating a reality that doesnt feel right but they wont understand why until they realise they're trans and stop simulating being a different person entirely.

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     CJ Bellwether (siege@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 10:06:34 JST CJ Bellwether

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     Someone get Charlie Kaufman on the phone he should be writing this.

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     Craig Nicol (craignicol@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 10:07:46 JST Craig Nicol

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     @siege I don't think they ever cited it as a reference, but I think it's interesting that both The Matrix and Turing's Imitation Game use machines as a metaphor for whether someone can pass according to societal norms. Of course, the stakes for him were unfortunately higher. I'd like to think a fully aware retelling would honour that connection.

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     CJ Bellwether (siege@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 10:09:02 JST CJ Bellwether

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     • Craig Nicol

     @craignicol yeah, i mean one of the key signs of someone maybe being trans is them saying they think they might actually be a robot or an alien.

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     CJ Bellwether (siege@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 10:20:19 JST CJ Bellwether

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     oh reading their site apparently its a hip hop adaptation of the matrix.. aaand no its still not about being trans.

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     CJ Bellwether (siege@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 10:27:31 JST CJ Bellwether

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     Man, have like you ever like *takes a long drag* stopped to think how The Matrix predicted that people in the future werent going to understand The Matrix?

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     CJ Bellwether (siege@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 10:28:22 JST CJ Bellwether

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     "the matrix correctly predicted our politics in the future was going to be focused around a red pill"

     *continually thumping my head on the desk*

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     CJ Bellwether (siege@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 10:29:13 JST CJ Bellwether

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     Danny did The Matrix also predict that you were going to make a hip hop dance adaptation of The Matrix?

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     CJ Bellwether (siege@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 10:50:22 JST CJ Bellwether

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     Also to spoil the ending, Boyle's Frankenstein ends with Doctor Frankenstein giving a long monologue and to the audience while the music slowly builds to an emotional crescendo, and then a huge door opens at the back of the stage and snow blows through from the piercing white light beyond (where the monster will chase Frankenstein as in the ending of the book) and the doctor turns and theatrically leaves and the music is pounding and then the door slams shut behind him and the bass booms through the audience in darkness. And then everyone feels compelled to stand up and applaud because they were just manipulated like Reality Tv does with footage.

     Matrix!: The Hip Hopera will do the same thing but after his monologue Neo will fly upwards to the bright light above as feathers or some other thing falls down.

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     CJ Bellwether (siege@octodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 11:01:16 JST CJ Bellwether

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     • Aris Merquoni

     @aris_tgd it was a very good audience manipulation ending, like the show was so long and drivelly but the ending overwrote everything and forced you to feel due to the bass vibrating through your bones and then it all echoing out as youre left in the darkness, you didnt care what Frankenstein just said but you felt moved so it must have been a good show.

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     Aris Merquoni (aris_tgd@mastodon.sandwich.net)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 11:01:17 JST Aris Merquoni

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     @siege it's a testament to the power of that ending that I have a photographic memory and saw the show twice in theaters and didn't remember that was how it ended until you told me.

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     Sleepy time tea bear (sleepytimeteabear@octodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 01:47:36 JST Sleepy time tea bear

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     @siege see I don’t even remember that part, I got stuck on the ‘monster revives the Dr by pouring wine all over his face’ and how much fuel that would be for an acting feud lol

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     CJ Bellwether (siege@octodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 05:14:25 JST CJ Bellwether

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     • Sleepy time tea bear

     @Sleepytimeteabear especially when they were swapping roles each night. see now this is the time when you should be swapping trinity and neo each night.

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     Sleepy time tea bear (sleepytimeteabear@octodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 06:05:57 JST Sleepy time tea bear

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     @siege yes! I was remembering you telling me about that show and the seige theory of Stirring Ending and I love it, that makes total sense
     Omg it would be so much more interesting if neo & trinity were swapping 👀