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    Nowhere Girl (gwynnion@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 04:44:51 JST Nowhere Girl Nowhere Girl

    There's an old narrative tension in the trans community between late-transitioning former "eggs" and trans kids and others who "always knew."

    It's mostly harmless and most agree trans people should be supported and access care as early as possible (or desired).

    But there has been a tug-of-war over whose narrative is the most representative.

    "Always knew" has been treated as something of a cliche created for cis people's benefit, along with metaphors often used by people who "always knew."

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      Nowhere Girl (gwynnion@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 04:44:46 JST Nowhere Girl Nowhere Girl
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      I most identify with kids and teens trying to transition today, under a more supportive environment, because that's what I would have done under those circumstances.

      I loathe conservatives and others who want to deny them that, and it feels very personal to me in a way a "cracked egg" does not. Because I was one of those kids once. And I didn't have the opportunity.

      But that doesn't make anyone else any less valid.

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      Nowhere Girl (gwynnion@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 04:44:46 JST Nowhere Girl Nowhere Girl
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      But you know, I still bristle a bit when people are dismissive of "always knew" and "born in the wrong body" when that's literally how I felt as a child.

      It's not just a metaphor we created to explain ourselves simply to cis people. It's a bone deep feeling and something we created to explain ourselves to ourselves in this seemingly impossible situation.

      And I worry that some people trying to defend their experiences are undermining the conversation around these kids who need help.

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      Nowhere Girl (gwynnion@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 04:44:48 JST Nowhere Girl Nowhere Girl
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      But I still encounter that tension occasionally.

      It's hard for some later transitioning people to believe I came out and transitioned in my late teens, in the 1990s.

      And you know, I get it, I think?

      I look at people who were out even younger and earlier than me with a bit of envy and wonder what I could have done differently.

      And I wonder how teens transitioning today feel about people like me and those who transitioned later.

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      Nowhere Girl (gwynnion@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 04:44:49 JST Nowhere Girl Nowhere Girl
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      That view seems common on social media popular with later transitioning people who perhaps feel forced to defend themselves because they didn't always know, although in many cases, they suspected but felt unable to act on it.

      And unfortunately, there has been a tendency from the "always knew" or "early" transitioning group as well as people who transitioned under the old gatekeeping system toward transmedicalism and dismissiveness of people who come out and transition later.

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      Nowhere Girl (gwynnion@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 04:44:49 JST Nowhere Girl Nowhere Girl
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      In the past few years, as attacks on us have ramped up again, I think there has been a convergence toward recognizing there is no One True Trans Narrative about our lives, that many are aware from an early age but many also repress this knowledge until later in life for the sake of safety and social acceptance, and people should be supported in transitioning whenever they're comfortable doing so. Most of us wish we could have done so earlier.

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      Nowhere Girl (gwynnion@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 04:49:57 JST Nowhere Girl Nowhere Girl
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      When I was a little girl who was AMAB, I didn't know the word "transgender." I still don't really embrace it as a description of my identity, and I don't participate in a lot of online trans culture because of it.

      I was just a little girl. And I had to make sense of that as best I could, on top of trying to convince other people. I was convinced god made a mistake.

      And that's a terrible situation for a child to be in, especially in a hostile environment.

      So yeah, it's personal.

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      novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️ (anarchopunk_girl@kolektiva.social)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 04:49:57 JST novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️ novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️
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      @gwynnion I'm an odd mix of both narratives tbh, so I defend both of them as valid. I transitioned later (19), but absolutely did feel like I was very specifically "born in the wrong body" since the moment puberty started to hit and I really diverged from girls in physiology — got hairy, tall, muscular, elongated, and square. I explicitly and deeply identified with characters who had undergone horrific transformations or literally been born in the wrong body or were minds in incongruent bodies or whatever. I explicitly saw my body and a lot of my identity as something very separate and unreal that I was trapped inside and had to make the best of. I also knew since 12 that I would be happier as a girl. I just didn't understand what the source of those feelings was, or what they meant, or, most importantly, that you even could do anything about them.

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      Nowhere Girl (gwynnion@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 09:12:27 JST Nowhere Girl Nowhere Girl
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      I don't think anyone should feel ashamed of when or why they transition, but I also wish we didn't feel like we have to justify ourselves, not even to a hostile cis culture, but to each other.

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      Nowhere Girl (gwynnion@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 09:12:29 JST Nowhere Girl Nowhere Girl
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      And while I understand the need to hide -- I was beaten by my brother and screamed at by my parents if I didn't -- I can't relate to not knowing and the "oops, all trans" sort of flippancy I occasionally see in the later transitioning crowd.

      Being trans has rarely felt "fun" as opposed to something I've been forced into so as not to want to kill myself and which only poorly approximates what could have been.

      But I'm not special. It takes all kinds. Everybody comes at this their own way.

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