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   Alexandre Oliva (lxo@gnusocial.net)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 06:56:34 JST Alexandre Oliva

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   • Tommi 🤯
   if I understand you correctly, there are two primary issues you're bringing up:
   
   1. media covers RMS more than other FS speakers, and highlights aspects of his speech that he's not so much of an expert on
   
   2. younger people would likely know better about their own obstacles in the path to free software
   
   I think you'd agree that 1. is not RMS's fault. it's good for the movement when what he speaks about free software is published without distortion, uncommon as that is, but, I mean, you linked to a report that seemingly expresses surprise or disappointment that he didn't mention "open source" not even once. what else are they twisting, highlighting or omitting to advance whatever agenda they're trying to advance? (evidently it's not the free software agenda)
   
   as for 2., yeah, absolutely, let's listen to them, but also let's keep in mind that fish's perception of the water all around them is quite different from that of someone who's outside the water, and sometimes it takes distance to see objectively something that those directly involved can't see, or can't identify as a problem. someone who spoke a number of times at free software conferences in her early teens went through massive and hurtful peer pressure towards her later teens. I'm pretty sure her opinion on the matter is not much different. other teens and grownups, subjected to such intense peer pressure and having their perceptions distorted by it, fail to notice it. let's listen to both!
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     Tommi 🤯 (tommi@pan.rent)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 06:56:35 JST Tommi 🤯

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     • Alfred M. Szmidt

     @amszmidt One thing is participation, another thing is commenting and telling what is best to do.

     I am glad to know there many young people, but the fact that I had no idea about it proved my point. All the media focused on RMS’ POV, as he is the superstar, the one with the most experience, and, of course, GNU’s founder. It is understandable and it is fine. When talking about the topic of youth engagement (and many other things that are not his field), though, he should not be as entitled.

     Broadly, what I am saying is: give the floor and the attention to those who are really and deeply involved with the subject of the discussion. Everyone has the right to make a comment, but I believe that in tue media the narration of who young people are and how they (should) behave is carried out by people who can not truly relate.

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     Alfred M. Szmidt (amszmidt@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 06:56:36 JST Alfred M. Szmidt

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     • Tommi 🤯

     @tommi Plenty of young people where at the event, having the most slots for presentations. The founder of the project being celebrated had one slot, and the rest for “youngsters”. Seems like we are doing exactly what you want, hm? Or is this just a blatant example of age discrimination? “If your old, your not allowed to participate”

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     Tommi 🤯 (tommi@pan.rent)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 06:56:37 JST Tommi 🤯

     I am so tired of hearing old people address problems concerning youngsters while there are plenty of young people involved who would have plenty to say!

     Let young people in #FreeSoftware talk about young people and Free Software!

     #GNU #Stallman #FSFE