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   Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 20:51:43 JST Eugen Rochko

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   "AI" is really the new "blockchain" in how every company is trying to hit the buzzword bingo with it right now.

   • Ethan Black, Matthew Lyon, Puniko ? and Mike McCue repeated this.
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     DJGummikuh (djgummikuh@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 20:56:46 JST DJGummikuh

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     @Gargron
     So far, in every ad that had 'AI' in it, I replaced it with 'intransparent surveillance desaster' and the ad still made a terrible amount of sense 😅

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     Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 20:59:28 JST Eugen Rochko

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     We already had something that turned text prompts into art, it was called paying an artist.

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     Open Risk (openrisk@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 21:08:50 JST Open Risk

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     @Gargron There are similarities in people's lemming behavior but also important substance differences that are good for the #opensource community to keep in mind.

     Blockchain architectures typically target problems that could be solved with slightly less decentralized / automated designs if people really wanted to.

     In contrast, "AI" is a class of useful algorithms (LLM) cleverly packaged to be seen as something magical. But they already solve something fairly practical, its not 100% hype.

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     chrishazfun (chrishazfun@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 21:10:23 JST chrishazfun

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     @Gargron every product is being turned into that automated support chat widget no one uses and i hate it

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     Greg Stolze (gregstolze@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 21:11:50 JST Greg Stolze

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     @Gargron People hate artists though.

     Individuals love specific artists, and society loves art, culture, entertainment...

     But at some point as it scales, the collective agrees to treat artists like absolute dogshit.

     Perhaps it's because creators evoke strong emotions, and we naturally dislike more stuff than we like...

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     bildi (guran@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 21:18:30 JST bildi

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     @Gargron ı cannot breathe any longer

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     Mat Gadd (drarok@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 21:18:48 JST Mat Gadd

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     @Gargron not just hit the buzzwords though, the places I speak to are genuinely trying to find fitting scenarios where they can integrate AI. That said, I think the main driver is because of investors heavily favouring AI stuff, which is never the right driver for product development. 😢

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     Mike Olson (mikeolson@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 21:24:07 JST Mike Olson

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     @Gargron I was thinking exactly that yesterday, driving on Highway 80 through downtown San Francisco.

     The billboards along there are a spotlight on Silicon Valley's psyche. For a while it was all about cloud, then data, then blockchain, then weed delivery. Right now it's AI alley.

     That piece of freeway is an up-to-the-minute news bulletin on what the VCs are funding.

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     Andreas K (yacc143@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 21:29:26 JST Andreas K

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     @Gargron You do realize, that from the perspective of a rentier capitalist, that old model had a very big problem, called “artist” that wanted to be paid?

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     Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 21:29:45 JST Eugen Rochko

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     @infiniterecursion You don't hire an orchestra to create new music. You hire a composer.

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     re-curse (infiniterecursion@nerdculture.de)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 21:29:49 JST re-curse

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     @Gargron just like we hire an orchestra every time we'd like to listen to some music.

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     Erik Jonker (erikjonker@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 21:31:44 JST Erik Jonker

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     @Gargron Blockchain was a hype but AI is different in many ways, for example that people can and do use in massively (ChatGPT etc.)

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     Voran4ik (voran4ik@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 21:47:45 JST Voran4ik

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     @Gargron Некоторые уже это сделали. Как вам результат ребят из университета, кажется более 1000% на фондовой бирже на короткий промежуток времени.

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     Healthcarer (healthcarer@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 21:50:18 JST Healthcarer

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     @Gargron Unlike Blockchain it has a real role to play. It will be managing our affairs long after the collapse of crypto.

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     rticks (rticks@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 22:01:37 JST rticks

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     @Gargron

     Any llm trained without full, overt, and separate consent is theft

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     Kit Rhett Aultman (roadriverrail@signs.codes)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 22:43:42 JST Kit Rhett Aultman

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     @yacc143 @Gargron true, but with Amazon exploring the need for their own nuclear reactors to power ML training, I do wonder how much one "pays" the ML.

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     Oliver Busch (gummibando@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 22:51:50 JST Oliver Busch

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     @Gargron I find it quite amusing that there are now so many ML-generated images, that image-generation ML models are now trained partly with ML-generated images.
     Digital incest, kinda.

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     nobody you care about (snepperstepper@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 23:01:16 JST nobody you care about

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     @Gargron its a dying fad. In reality, its just a thin veneer put up over the cruel machine of capitalism to make it seem trendy and hip to be exploited. You thought the blockchain died a miserable death being the pyramid scheme of useless tech, watch how hard AI falls, especially in this economy.

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     sully1503 (sully1503@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 23:35:48 JST sully1503

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     @Gargron And rebrand services they already provide as “AI.” Feedly was one and all several on here were like “boycott Feedly, they’ll help snuff out labor strikes!” Not realizing most large companies and organizations have security that monitors situations around the world to try and keep their employees and assets safe. Or that Feedly already did that service long before it called it “AI.”

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     Urzl (gooba42@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 23:59:32 JST Urzl

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     @Gargron I do programming at a health insurer and members of my team had great ideas about portability and data integrity based on using blockchain in claims processing.

     Those seem to have evaporated, there's no institutional interest in it. AI, and the prospect of it replacing *us* is very exciting for the executive folks. I haven't quite figured out why though, since none of the LLM stuff seems to be getting any more accurate at referring to reality.

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     Teop_Versant (teop_versant@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 06-Oct-2023 00:55:13 JST Teop_Versant

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     @Gargron Sounds like AI is a corporate revolution, which if won would result in employee diminution, which has not been entirely successful-to date..

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     Phil Rees (phrees@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 06-Oct-2023 01:07:59 JST Phil Rees

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     @Gargron Just like the blockchain it consumes an immense amount of energy and computing resources at a time when climate change is an existential threat.

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     Kit Rhett Aultman (roadriverrail@signs.codes)'s status on Friday, 06-Oct-2023 01:25:37 JST Kit Rhett Aultman

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     • Andreas K

     @yacc143 @Gargron Believe me, I'm not anti-nuclear. I just wonder how the capital costs (and the labor costs of operation) amortize out.

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     Andreas K (yacc143@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 06-Oct-2023 01:25:38 JST Andreas K

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     • Kit Rhett Aultman

     @roadriverrail @Gargron Well, nuclear plants are a nice way to greenwash your energy needs.

     (Not that arguably it might be a short-term solution to avoid CO²)

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     Mr H D (homestudiodad@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 06-Oct-2023 01:30:12 JST Mr H D

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     @Gargron you nailed it😃

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     Mullaney (mullaney@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 06-Oct-2023 01:53:54 JST Mullaney

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     @Gargron except there are an incredible array of actually useful things that can be done with machine learning, and virtually nothing useful that is done on the blockchain (yet).

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     Ian Rennie (theangelremiel@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 06-Oct-2023 02:19:19 JST Ian Rennie

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     @Gargron every now and then I wonder whether the kind of people who claim they "made" their AI art would claim they "made" their commissioned art, but of course they would.

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     NovemberMan (novemberman@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 06-Oct-2023 02:55:55 JST NovemberMan

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     @Gargron 👍💯👍

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     Nate Tharp (natetharp@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 06-Oct-2023 03:00:57 JST Nate Tharp

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     @Gargron And it’s being covered by journalists through the same panacea lens. We’ve learned nothing.

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     br00t4c (br00t4c@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 06-Oct-2023 07:13:28 JST br00t4c

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     @Gargron #innovative

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     James (whostolemyhat@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 06-Oct-2023 17:16:39 JST James

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     @Gargron At work, we're getting pressure to 'use more ai' and 'do something innovative with ai'. Turns out all our clients are asking about it, and we're being regarded as not as good as competitors because we're 'not using ai', so we're just supposed to shoehorn it in somehow.

     We're actually using machine learning in several areas, but apparently ai now means chatbots and generative art.

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     LAUREN (noondlyt@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 06-Oct-2023 19:37:58 JST LAUREN

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     @Gargron Yes. Commissioned.