@nyx@m yeah it's pretty obviously made by irony poisoned nazbols who have come 80% of the way to reinventing aspergia without actually calling it aspergia
@nyx@m I actually knew someone who tried (same person I mentioned upthread) and the North Korean embassy rejected them politely but firmly with the condition that they were always welcome at the Christmas parties they threw there.
@nyx@m I seem to remember red star only being used for industrial automation and propaganda photo-ops and most of their actual computers there running older versions of windows, but the situation could very well have changed since I last heard anything from there
@nyx@m Russia doesn't either and they're in a way better position relatively speaking. That being said, I think Latin America is relatively Linux friendly in terms of mass adoption and so is India, so those are the places which I expect to secure technological independence first (assuming they don't just end up on HarmonyOS or whatever the PRC will try pushing on the world at large)
@allison@m apparently this is actually the explicit goal with Cuba's distro (Nova), which makes sense since Cuba has even more of a need to be technologically independent
which is pretty cool because really if I were to defect to a communist country Cuba is 100% my top choice
@nyx@allison cuba is pretty based ngl like yeah they're poor but that's mostly a propaganda piece most countries are poor especially in the region but cuba poor and anticapitalism also being explicitly socialist and sticking with it, based really they're in much the same boat as north korea in this regard where most the problems are not with the nation but america's interferrence, and i'm glad they dont sell out
I think Latin America is relatively Linux friendly in terms of mass adoption Uh is this serious? I can’t speak for the wealthier parts of Mexico or South America but most people can’t afford the newest tech and there are restrictions on importing those goods. If anyone uses linux out there they must be a variant of autistic, and have the means to access that technology. Furthermore, I know for a fact that a lot of gov infrastructure is hosted on AWS servers. Neo-colonialism in latin america extends beyond NAFTA, they own all their hardware too.
@teratology@m@nyx which country are you in? the situation obviously varies a lot from country to country, but from what I remember at least el salvador was pushing it hard governmentally (excepting venezuela, which is really a special case due to *reasons*)
@teratology@m@allison I would think that the lack of being able to afford newer tech would mean that linux would be a lot more appealing since you can run it on older hardware and it'll run well, and also costs nothing, but from talking to people in latin ameri(c)a it doesn't seem like the situation is any different there with Windows being the dominant thing
I would think so too but the main thing (in central america) is that a lot of people lack access to internet or banking services. I agree about linux being FOSS and having better hardware compatibility but we’re talking about countries where I had to smuggle devices to my relatives because of restrictions. These people are very tech illiterate or had limited exposure to technology in their lifetimes. I sent a thinkpad x220 once and I think it got replaced in favor of a newer notebook :marseyshrug: I even had it running windows 7 pro in spanish.
afaik it would make sense for windows to be dominant, because that’s what is being pushed but I also know from some reliable sources that a lot of gov infrastructure is running on U.S owned hardware which does not sit right with me at all. But then again I know people in Belize that can’t even get passports or visas. The situation is really fucking bad but not surprising when you realize these countries have been bending over for america for years at this point. Ideally they would have their own independent systems running on FOSS software but that may be many years by this point. People are too focused on hunger and their dwindling civil rights.
@teratology@m@nyx >Belize That explains a lot actually, them and Honduras seem to be in a constant competition to see who can placate the most US ancap millionaire fantasies while everything else falls apart at the seams.
@allison@m@nyx El Salvador was pushing what exactly? I see them cited a lot as a good example of leadership or “democracy” by Chicanos here, and I always push back against it because it’s usually propaganda and misinformed at best.
Most people in ES still don’t have access to internet or bank accounts despite cryptocurrency being shilled hard. Infringing on civil liberties and framing it as criminal reform has been celebrated by people like Kopmala Harris and President Biden but it doesn’t mean it works.
@teratology@m@nyx Free software in government and education. I'm certainly not going to comment on what Bukele is doing as I by and large don't agree with it (cryptocurrency in particular is clownish to try establishing in a nation that poorly developed infrastructure wise, as you said)
@nyx@m@allison i was walking near the north korean embassy when their back door opened, and they took delivery of a package from a local courier company as if it were just any other place