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   meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:13:27 JST meso
   no it isnt if someone delivered my stuff in that wacky thing id shoot them
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     Password Man (mac_ack@hidamari.apartments)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:13:25 JST Password Man

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     @meso Vox thinks it's efficient to replace a van that holds hundreds of packages with a bike delivering 10-20
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     meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:26:27 JST meso

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     • vixn ✝️
     @vixn @coolboymew you don't have to be elites to fall for their lies and support what they do, they also sound more like liberals and environmentalists, not leftists
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:26:27 JST Sexy Moon

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     • vixn ✝️
     @meso @vixn @coolboymew vox is regime propaganda, lots of people fall for propaganda.
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     vixn ✝️ (vixn@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:26:28 JST vixn ✝️

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     @coolboymew @meso except it’s not. I literally have family in California, who are no where near being elites, that believe in this shit. It’s absolutely left.

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     meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:26:29 JST meso

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     • vixn ✝️
     @coolboymew @vixn thats just a liberal thing, any real leftist would be at least slightly against this depending on how retarded they are, as we all know who this benefits in the end if corpos and journos are pushing it so hard
     Alex Gleason repeated this.
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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:26:29 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @meso @vixn I think the left/right thing is increasingly useless for this
     
     This is the "ruling class" and their sycophants who larps as bourgeois being an absolute pest as usual. They're on an entire other tier
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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:26:30 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @meso @vixn because it's most likely a climate reason and the journos are dishing out all the awful ideas for clickbait
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     meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:26:31 JST meso

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     • vixn ✝️
     @vixn @coolboymew how is this leftist dawg
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     vixn ✝️ (vixn@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:26:32 JST vixn ✝️

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     @meso @coolboymew seriously what is up with this leftist obsession with going back in time, but only for things that will economically destroy us

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     meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 08:54:20 JST meso

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     @mac_ack also like FUCK imagine going uphill with that thing. i get ebikes exist but like idk that seems like youre just making delivery drivers who already get paid like shit and from the stories ive heard have to pee in bottles, put even more physical effort at the job, and they'll probably get paid even less because it's no longer a car it's now a bike so 'lesser'
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     Password Man (mac_ack@hidamari.apartments)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 08:55:25 JST Password Man

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     @meso holy shit I watched the video and the condescending uptalking bitch spends a third of the video talking about the danger large vehicles pose to pedestrians and cyclist. However she never considered driver safety as a reason to not deliver on bikes.
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 08:59:26 JST Sexy Moon

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     @sapphire @raphael @vixn @coolboymew @meso nobody working at vox has ever worked any job besides the cushy job their rich parents got them at a shitlib media rag right out of college.
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     sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 08:59:27 JST sapphire

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     @raphael @coolboymew @vixn @meso now do the fact that they’ve gotta go back and forth between the distro center every 4 packages because a bike can’t carry any more.
     
     When I was doing amazons ride share delivery, they were loading those vans for 12 hour days
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     Raphael Lullis (raphael@mastodon.communick.com)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 08:59:28 JST Raphael Lullis

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     @coolboymew @vixn @meso

     > the driver comes with the car.

     So, the talk about "companies pushing this because of money" is total bullshit.

     > They cover both the city close to the warehouse and 3 other cities closeby

     You keep talking about logistics for the typical US suburb when I am talking about places with higher pop density, which (as I understand it) is what the article frames as "urban" scenario.

     This is not going anywhere. Better to leave like this.

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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 08:59:29 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @raphael @vixn @meso
     
     >And get stuck in traffic, take time to park, have higher operational costs...
     
     They have very little operational cost because the driver comes with the car. So the small restaurant or pharmacy doesn't have to maintain a bike. Then the delivery boy take all commands in one go and go deliver them at certain hour. With a bike that'd be a lot of coming and going
     
     >And if you have 4 people on bikes, you can cover the whole itinerary in one hour.
     
     Not they can't, the Amazon delivery boys covers places that takes hours to get to in cars. They cover both the city close to the warehouse and 3 other cities closeby
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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 08:59:30 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @raphael @vixn @meso
     
     >Food delivery, pharmacies
     
     Delivery boys already have their cars
     
     >small amazon packages
     
     Amazon, at least here, covers several cities and the delivery dude exits the warehouse and do this all day
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     Raphael Lullis (raphael@mastodon.communick.com)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 08:59:30 JST Raphael Lullis

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     @coolboymew @vixn @meso

     > Delivery boys already have their cars

     And get stuck in traffic, take time to park, have higher operational costs...

     while someone on a bike can *literally* stop at the building door leave the package and go on to the next.

     > exits the warehouse and do this all day.

     And if you have 4 people on bikes, you can cover the whole itinerary in one hour.

     You do understand we are talking about "last mile" here, right?

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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 08:59:32 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • Raphael Lullis
     @raphael @vixn @meso these literally already exists
     
     Here's the thing tho', it's replacing nothing, it's an extreme use case that only happens because downtown is where a lot of the companies are located, they don't serve the full city either
     
     It's nothing new, it's nothing exciting, it cannot serve beyond this, it's expensive so it's basically business only use and yadda yadda. It's replacing nothing because it cannot
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     Raphael Lullis (raphael@mastodon.communick.com)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 08:59:32 JST Raphael Lullis

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     @coolboymew @vixn @meso

     > it's expensive so it's basically business

     Food delivery, small amazon packages, pharmacies. All of that can be delivered with a bike.

     In big cities from South America, there is a whole industry (look for "São Paulo motoboys") that basically crushes any attempt from UPS or Fedex entering the market.

     > it's nothing exciting,

     So what?

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     Raphael Lullis (raphael@mastodon.communick.com)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 08:59:33 JST Raphael Lullis

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     @coolboymew @vixn @meso

     Which part of "urban delivery" you missed? Of course this is only for cities and areas with higher population density.

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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 08:59:34 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • Raphael Lullis
     @meso @raphael @vixn These are entirely only possible in big city, locally. They're made for specialized courier, that already exists, and are expensive and nothing else
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     meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 08:59:35 JST meso

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     • Raphael Lullis
     @raphael @vixn @coolboymew >It's more efficient for the delivery guy
     it's not
     >In any big city in Europe you see a good amount of deliveries being done by these cargo bikes.
     Gross. Don't think Europe is any better for doing this, they're just using us as a playground to test out their bullshit retarded ideas
     >lets this job be done even by kids who don't/can't drive.
     yeah, so everyone gets paid less. it's all about the money.
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     Raphael Lullis (raphael@mastodon.communick.com)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 08:59:36 JST Raphael Lullis

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     @vixn @meso @coolboymew

     If you think that everyone lives in a shitty American suburb, okay. But how is that going to "destroy the economy" in an urban environment?

     In any big city in Europe you see a good amount of deliveries being done by these cargo bikes. It's more efficient for the delivery guy, reduces traffic and lets this job be done even by kids who don't/can't drive.