Conversation
Notices
-
Embed this notice
@Ottovonshitpost If you don't care about innocents getting caught in the process.
-
Embed this notice
I'll bet you $100 far less innocent people were caught by the dragnet approach used in El Salvador than the number of people who would be victimized of the now incarcerated people. Even if you mistakenly swoop up a few good people, that's is a better trade than letting your society go to hell.
-
Embed this notice
So why the goncern trolling?
-
Embed this notice
@BowsacNoodle @Ottovonshitpost Duh.
-
Embed this notice
>Literally accusing me of concern trolling?
I mean that kind of comes across like that, yes.
-
Embed this notice
@BowsacNoodle @Ottovonshitpost Literally accusing me of concern trolling? What are you, a /r/thedonald mod?
-
Embed this notice
Acceptable collateral damage
-
Embed this notice
Acceptable losses. When clearing brush that threatens my garden I don't worry how many innocent critters may die. I worry about my family that will die without that food.
Acceptable casualties are acceptable
-
Embed this notice
@BowsacNoodle @Nesano @Ottovonshitpost it's not trolling, it's an important detail. the fact that savagery works here isn't new or surprising information. it isn't practiced in the "civilized" world because it carries significant costs
frontier justice is frontier justice for a reason
-
Embed this notice
We're at such a weird departure from old school liberal beliefs which leaned towards liberal application of mercy to prevent the innocent being punished. Authoritarian libtardism is the gayest thing ever.
-
Embed this notice
@Nesano @Ottovonshitpost @BowsacNoodle I mean sometimes they do :puniko_shrug: but there are certainly tradeoffs. just depends on how bad the broader situation is I guess
-
Embed this notice
@roboneko @Ottovonshitpost @BowsacNoodle I love seeing bad shit happen to spics, it's just that the whole "1 innocent can suffer as long as 10 criminals pay" is libtard mentality that wouldn't go well here.
-
Embed this notice
@roboneko @Ottovonshitpost @BowsacNoodle NAH MENG ENDS JUSTIFY MEANS MENG SHEIT
-
Embed this notice
>"1 innocent can suffer as long as 10 criminals pay"
The fuck? what liberal in the history of the world has ever said this outside of burning heretics of their religion?
-
Embed this notice
They don't say it, but they do act like it. Their mortal enemy is European Christian culture and all of the morals and norms that come with it, as you obviously know.
-
Embed this notice
@BowsacNoodle @Nesano @Ottovonshitpost nooooooo you have to choose inaction over any action that could have any number of false positives, it's the whole point of the trolley problem!!1
-
Embed this notice
As civilization reverts to frontier, we can't be shocked or angered when frontier justice returns as the only working justice.
-
Embed this notice
Absolutely. It doesn't even NEED to be execution, as even caning is effective. When people realize that crimes are going to cause them physical pain, they change their views pretty quickly.
-
Embed this notice
@Nesano @roboneko @Ottovonshitpost @BowsacNoodle when you kill criminals crimes goes down, when you let them lose and be feral people die.
Simple as, there is no greater philosophy than seeing in the real world what works and what doesn't.
-
Embed this notice
@roboneko @Nesano @Ottovonshitpost @BowsacNoodle @Victor_Emmanuel innocent people are still getting in jail under democracy. Democracy just actively chooses to release feral monkeys while piling a ton of expenses and red tape upon the innocent.
-
Embed this notice
@BowsacNoodle @Nesano @Ottovonshitpost @Victor_Emmanuel at some point you leave the territory of liberal and enter that of authoritarian. or in the case of the present day far-left, more like religious authoritarians
put another way, just because someone claims to be something doesn't mean others would recognize them as such
> "1 innocent can suffer as long as 10 criminals pay"
I suppose this is probably a case of correlation versus causation. liberalism doesn't seem to inherently require minimizing collateral damage. more just that the people it attracts will tend to also think that way due to their underlying world view
-
Embed this notice
"Democracy" is the justification for why we get rule by corrupt oligarchs without the chance or opportunity to tell them to actually get will of the people anywhere. FFS gay "marriage" was legislated from the bench after it was voted down in CALIFORNIA. And then the "conservative" party gladly voted for it in large scale to codify it into law. Meanwhile I can guarantee that at least 2/3 of states would vote to ban it today if it hit the ballot tomorrow.
-
Embed this notice
People beat around the bush with the topic because nobody wants to be accused of incitement and we all hate to use a lot of words when fewer words look better. Seems like none of us disagree that the current system sucks and there's various improvements, either corporal or actual legal consequences rather than anarchotyranny.
-
Embed this notice
@basadeskaiser @Nesano @Ottovonshitpost @BowsacNoodle @Victor_Emmanuel I never claimed it didn't happen. surely you aren't implying that being less careful about things would somehow reduce this number?
tbh I'm not entirely clear what I'm responding to at this point. in this thread we've had references to the practices of (at least) mass arrests, widespread execution, and catch and release
-
Embed this notice
Causality chain. When there's too much crime because you catch and release repeat offenders, there's not enough resources to enforce rule of law for small issues, let alone big ones.
-
Embed this notice
@BowsacNoodle @basadeskaiser @Nesano @Ottovonshitpost I'm fairly certain that's not correct actually. although it's certainly a widely held view. the actual phenomenon is that the certainty of being caught is generally far more important than the severity of the punishment. at least for petty crime
-
Embed this notice
@roboneko @Nesano @Ottovonshitpost @BowsacNoodle @Victor_Emmanuel Im adding to your comment, I'm not implying you said anything besides the thing that made me think about this.
Nesano
BowserNoodle ☦️
VidMasterEon
DE
Neko McCatface v2023 :verified::makemeneko:
Victor_Emmanuel
Birdulon
Dovahkiin
Basades Kaiser
All GNU social JP content and data are available under the