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   Canadian Glen :mstdnca: (canadianglen@mstdn.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 14:06:27 JST Canadian Glen :mstdnca:

   • emilygorcenski

   @emilygorcenski Boeing just didn't have the Beltway power like Lockheed did

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     smellsofbikes (smellsofbikes@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 14:08:43 JST smellsofbikes

     • emilygorcenski

     @emilygorcenski For me it's usually the A-5 Vigilante, but, yes.

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     Canadian Glen :mstdnca: (canadianglen@mstdn.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 14:12:37 JST Canadian Glen :mstdnca:

     • emilygorcenski

     @emilygorcenski Raptor is Lockheed, but agree Northrop had plenty of pull, B-2 was coming

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     Claudius Link (realn2s@infosec.exchange)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 15:24:29 JST Claudius Link

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     • Jennifer Kayla | Theogrin 🦊

     @theogrin @emilygorcenski
     😳 TIL about the CF-105

     Would you have a pointer to new information?

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     Jennifer Kayla | Theogrin 🦊 (theogrin@chaosfem.tw)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 15:24:31 JST Jennifer Kayla | Theogrin 🦊

     • emilygorcenski

     @emilygorcenski

     And not long after a newly-declassified paper more thoroughly illustrated the reasons behind the CF-105's cancellation!

     Lots of planes on the news.

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     jack the nonabrasive (karabaic@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 15:26:14 JST jack the nonabrasive

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     • emilygorcenski

     @emilygorcenski If you want the full story, do a FOIA request on the whole sordid history of F-15 Contract Change Proposal 39. McAir were the most arrogant assholes I’ve ever dealt with, even if they could make a brick fly.

     While you’re at it, pull the history of the Common Engine Bay proposal, and the years they spent opposing the ability for the USAF to second-source engines for the F-15.

     Man, it’s over 40 years later and I still hate those disingenuous asshats.

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     jack the nonabrasive (karabaic@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 15:26:15 JST jack the nonabrasive

     • emilygorcenski

     @emilygorcenski Yeah, if McAir weren’t completely dishonest in describing much of the F-15’s software—which taxpayers paid for—as “firmware” they called “proprietary” and, thus, didn’t need to provide source code to, test publicly, or document, I’d probably feel sorry.

     But, I don’t, because they treated their customers—the USAF and the American taxpayer—as rubes beneath contempt. They got what they deserved: they lost the next contract, as I advocated.