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   Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 09:16:32 JST Sexy Moon
   deeply uncomfortable with rights organizations making pragmatic appeals against internet surveillance. would way rather see them saying something like "human decency recognizes the absolute right of people to have private conversations without government eavesdropping."
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 09:19:28 JST Sexy Moon

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     Like, do you work for me or do I work for you? You exist as a convenience, if your government thinks it owns you it deserves to be immediately destroyed.
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 09:25:47 JST Sexy Moon

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     • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
     @freemo a pragmatic appeal means arguing "we shouldn't do it because it won't work" or "it would be too costly to implement"
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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 09:25:49 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @Moon I think there was a typo in your post, or i misunderstood…

     Isnt this:

     human decency recognizes the absolute right of people to have private conversations without government eavesdropping.

     An example of this

     rights organizations making pragmatic appeals against internet surveillance

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 09:30:29 JST Sexy Moon

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     • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
     @freemo pragmatic, as opposed to philosophical. sorry if my wording was confusing.
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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 09:30:30 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @Moon ahhh I see.. that doesnt sound like a very pragmatic approach to me. But I understand now.

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     Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 09:31:31 JST Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

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     • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
     @freemo Pragmatic as in "for practical reasons" instead "for our priciples". @Moon
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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 09:39:00 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     • Linux Walt Alt (@lnxw37a2) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

     @lnxw37a2 @Moon

     Well i know what the word means. I guess i just read the human decency quotation as being a very practical reason ;)

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 21:05:49 JST 翠星石

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     @Moon >if your government thinks it owns you it deserves to be immediately destroyed.
     The government doesn't think they own you, they *do* own you.
     
     If you have doubts, have a look at your birth certificate or try to leave the country without a passport.
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