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    Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:15:50 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell

    You know how young children will see some toy or shiny object on a store shelf, and somehow — by design! Marketers know what they’re doing! — they instantly •have• to have it, and are obsessed, and all sense and proportion go out they window and they need it now now NOW, but if they get it they abandon it within a week because it’s junk that only looked good on the shelf?

    It’s like that with CEOs and AI right now.

    In conversation Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:15:50 JST from hachyderm.io permalink
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      Keith Ammann @ PAX Unplugged (keithammann@dice.camp)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:19:31 JST Keith Ammann @ PAX Unplugged Keith Ammann @ PAX Unplugged
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      @inthehands If only we could abandon the CEOs when the shine wears off.

      In conversation Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:19:31 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:24:27 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      It’s really a perfect storm right now for gen AI to create this “shiny object” effect:

      • Companies increasingly investor-driven, pressure shifts from growth to cash extraction

      • Salary for knowledge-based jobs increasingly drives cost structure

      • Pandemic took 1-2 million people out of the workforce; labor has increased leverage

      • But wealth & power ever more concentrated with executives & investors

      In conversation Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:24:27 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:26:36 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      So picture it: you hold the reins of the company, you just neeeeed to get more cash out of it faster, but that’s hart because you’re paying all these people all this money for all these things that you don’t quite understand but seem like they •should• be a lot easier…

      …and suddenly somebody says you can just replace them all with machines?! Prayers answered!

      It’s pretty hard not to switch off the thinking part of your brain at that point. Shiny toy on the store shelf.

      In conversation Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:26:36 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:30:56 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      Special props to those shiny object marketers for pumping their AI hype through MBA programs for •years• now. Folks have been graduating that world for years hearing that AI is going to replace all sorts of skilled — costly! — jobs, so when the sales pitches finally landed on their doorstop, they were primed to believe it. Product placement in professional programs: it works!

      Like I said, those marketers know what they’re doing. They are right inside the kids’ brains.

      In conversation Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:30:56 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:33:18 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      Anyway, this whole thread stems from a conversation I was having with my parents about some comically unhelpful AI assistant tech they’d encountered, and I said, “You’d think that we’d have learned these lessons from Clippy 20 years ago….”

      In conversation Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:33:18 JST permalink
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      Jeff Miller (orange hatband) (jmeowmeow@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:41:49 JST Jeff Miller (orange hatband) Jeff Miller (orange hatband)
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      @inthehands Or the lessons from Microsoft's Tay about how terrible things can get, how quickly.

      In conversation Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:41:49 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:53:18 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Theodore Painsworth

      @Itty53
      Aw, thanks! For me they are sort of a form of primal scream therapy in complete sentence, so I’m puzzled but pleased that people seem to enjoy them.

      In conversation Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:53:18 JST permalink
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      Theodore Painsworth (itty53@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:53:19 JST Theodore Painsworth Theodore Painsworth
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      @inthehands

      Just wanted to pause this morning and express how much I love reading your posts.

      In conversation Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:53:19 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:54:01 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Jeff Miller (orange hatband)

      @jmeowmeow bUt THiS tiME iT’s DifFeREnT

      In conversation Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:54:01 JST permalink
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      McNulla (mcnulla@techhub.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:54:06 JST McNulla McNulla
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      • The Corodon

      @thecorodon @inthehands
      CEOs are compensated for making wrong decisions too. Maybe we should have AI CEOs?

      In conversation Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:54:06 JST permalink
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      The Corodon (thecorodon@wandering.shop)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:54:07 JST The Corodon The Corodon
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      @inthehands
      It can be hard but you could think--one well might!--that difficult calls like that are why CEOs receive above-average compensation.

      In conversation Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:54:07 JST permalink
      Paul Cantrell repeated this.
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:55:19 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • The Corodon
      • McNulla

      @mcnulla @thecorodon
      Honestly their jobs as performed in reality seem a whole lot more suitable for replacement with LLMs than programmers, lawyers, or folks taking support calls

      In conversation Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 23:55:19 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 00:04:14 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • McNulla
      • Keith Ammann @ PAX Unplugged

      @KeithAmmann @mcnulla @thecorodon
      By “jobs as performed,” I meant that training them on the decisions made by human CEOs might at least produce results of similar quality.

      In conversation Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 00:04:14 JST permalink
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      Keith Ammann @ PAX Unplugged (keithammann@dice.camp)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 00:04:16 JST Keith Ammann @ PAX Unplugged Keith Ammann @ PAX Unplugged
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      • The Corodon
      • McNulla

      @mcnulla @thecorodon @inthehands Not if they're trained on the choices made by human CEOs.

      In conversation Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 00:04:16 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 00:52:27 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • McNulla

      @thecorodon @mcnulla
      Yeah…unlike, say, blockchain, there really is a “there” there with the current generation of AI. Your detection / generation distinction is a helpful heuristic, as is “Is it OK if the output is kinda bullshit?” But AI in its current state is new, it's going to spending a long time thwarting our intuitions before we get competent at figuring out what it’s good for.

      In conversation Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 00:52:27 JST permalink
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      The Corodon (thecorodon@wandering.shop)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 00:52:28 JST The Corodon The Corodon
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      • McNulla

      @inthehands @mcnulla
      I mean snark aside, AIs seem to show genuine promise in *identifying* patterns rather than *generating* then (e.g. reading mammograms). I assume it could have useful potential as a diagnostic tool in business as well.
      But CEOs will have to adapt to this new normal by finding ways to differentiate their offerings from an algorithmic application of MBA principles and oh darn there's that snark again.

      In conversation Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 00:52:28 JST permalink
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      Tormod Halvorsen (airwhale@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 04:16:13 JST Tormod Halvorsen Tormod Halvorsen
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      @inthehands

      "Over-estimate me at your own peril" - AI

      In conversation Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 04:16:13 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 12-Oct-2023 01:29:45 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Max Kennerly

      Obviously the investment horizons companies are looking at are far longer, even in their happy imaginations, but I’m still feeling unreasonably smug about my entire thread above reading this from @maxkennerly (whose comment is spot on):
      https://mstdn.social/@maxkennerly/111217003025012436

      In conversation Thursday, 12-Oct-2023 01:29:45 JST permalink

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        Max Kennerly (@maxkennerly@mstdn.social)
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        Remarkable how most of the major companies have the same AI business model, which is "how can I pay the least amount of money to humans to create an app that does a bad job replacing humans?" God forbid they pay a bunch of humans to build a good product that augments what other humans are doing. https://gizmodo.com/github-copilot-ai-microsoft-openai-chatgpt-1850915549
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 12-Oct-2023 05:14:26 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Bobbi Towers

      @BTowersCoding Yeah, that was a careless shorthand on my part. If only.

      In conversation Thursday, 12-Oct-2023 05:14:26 JST permalink
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      Bobbi Towers (btowerscoding@functional.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 12-Oct-2023 05:14:27 JST Bobbi Towers Bobbi Towers
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      @inthehands I really wish it were only CEOs.

      In conversation Thursday, 12-Oct-2023 05:14:27 JST permalink

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