One of my hot-ish takes is that Chrome as a browser is far less enshittified compared to Firefox. FF ships with so many things that I disable first (ads on the new tab page, Pocket etc.) that Chrome just ... doesn't. Don't get me wrong, I still use Firefox as my browser for ethical reasons these days, but performance-wise, UX-wise and esp. PWA-wise its not even close
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Felicitas Pojtinger 🌊 (pojntfx@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2023 21:19:38 JST Felicitas Pojtinger 🌊 - HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 repeated this.
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Felicitas Pojtinger 🌊 (pojntfx@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2023 21:19:33 JST Felicitas Pojtinger 🌊 @tarasglek Brave is based on the same engine as Chrome. No point in using it
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tarasglek (tarasglek@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2023 21:19:38 JST tarasglek @pojntfx this is why Brave exists
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Felicitas Pojtinger 🌊 (pojntfx@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2023 21:24:18 JST Felicitas Pojtinger 🌊 @tarasglek Meh, maybe he was of relevance two decades ago, but between the homophobia, crypto enshittification and the fact that its literally just a Chrome fork I don't see any point in that
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HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2023 21:24:18 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 Sorry for jumping in.
So, if everything but Edge and Safari and ?? is but a Chome fork, what is the key takeaway?--Stay offline?
Most dictatorships were democracies before. Any technology can become weaponized.
Which browser do you recommend for the major 5 OSs?
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tarasglek (tarasglek@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2023 21:24:19 JST tarasglek @pojntfx Brendan Eich was the mastermind behind Firefox. Nobody else has enough skin in the game to build a competitive browser team
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Felicitas Pojtinger 🌊 (pojntfx@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2023 21:28:17 JST Felicitas Pojtinger 🌊 And before you comment "but FF has caught up to Chrome's performance": No it hasn't. Like ... not at all. It has surpassed in 1 (1!) benchmark from the early 2010s. Its wayyyy behind in anything relevant: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Firefox-117-Chrome-116-Bench
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Felicitas Pojtinger 🌊 (pojntfx@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2023 21:40:37 JST Felicitas Pojtinger 🌊 @HistoPol @tarasglek Edge is also a Chrome fork, and Chrome is a Safari/WebKit fork, so there really are only two choices - Firefox or Chrome and its forks. I recommend using and do use Firefox, but we need to realize that that fight is already lost
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HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2023 22:17:33 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 So many are. It is really sad.
Sometimes, it feels like picking up the pieces...Well, not everyone (most) needs the high-performance features you mentioned.
I had been using Opera for ages, but am slowly moving to FF.
Alas, some websites only run well on Vhrome, but I don't see too much harm in just having it installed...You mentioned that you disable several things in FF B4 using it. As you apparently are very knowledgeable about such things, how about a how-to? 🤩
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Felicitas Pojtinger 🌊 (pojntfx@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 21:00:47 JST Felicitas Pojtinger 🌊 @HistoPol @tarasglek Haha I don't really do too much tbh! Just remove Pocket and the ads, use Vimium and uBlock and that's it 🤷♀️ I don't see much point in modifying the browser beyond that, what matters is what Mozilla ships to its users by default IMHO
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HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 23:24:54 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 @pojntfx
Thanks 4 the feedback.Had to check on these add-ons:
Pocket* is simply not listed in my Android FF App's Extensions.(?)
Ublock: The add-block function is included in my security suite. Hardly see any add, except when it is either pay wall or adds--I then use Edge just for that page.--A second one?
Vimium I didn’t know; Chrome extension. As I hardly ever resort to Chrome, not sure if it makes sense installing. (sometimes for special websites.)
Yes, but no influence there. 😉
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HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 23:28:38 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 PS:
You remove Pocket b/c it links across devices, thus providing e.g. a cell number, an IMEI, and the website visited, correct?
I' using Evernote for these (rare) purposes of centralized bookmarking (not sure about security, though.)