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King_Porgi (king_porgi@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 14:34:31 JST King_Porgi

going to find more memes for you ungrateful heathens
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  I am just normal /k/orean :verified: (justnormalkorean@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 14:35:09 JST I am just normal /k/orean :verified:
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  @King_Porgi This is why Greek makes more sense to read the Gospels in. There's like 7 words for love.
  
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  Crux_Invictus (crux_invictus@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 14:35:09 JST Crux_Invictus
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  @justnormalkorean @King_Porgi I'd rather have pastors do their job and actually teach their congregations, rather than expect them to pick up koine Greek. Running regular Bible studies and properly preaching the full Word of God will go a long way for the discipling of their fellow Christians.
  
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  King_Porgi (king_porgi@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 14:35:44 JST King_Porgi
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  @Crux_Invictus @justnormalkorean quite possibly. forgive me i was raised roman catholic and my pastor and monsignor were not very approachable or nice individuals.
  
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  Crux_Invictus (crux_invictus@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 14:35:44 JST Crux_Invictus
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  @King_Porgi @justnormalkorean Ah, yeah, the good ol' "God's annointed" routine.
  
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  King_Porgi (king_porgi@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 14:35:45 JST King_Porgi
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  @Crux_Invictus @justnormalkorean didn't God say that no man shall speak for him? i think every man should just read the bible.
  
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  @King_Porgi @justnormalkorean >didn't God say that no man shall speak for him
  Not that I can remember.
  
  Everyone should indeed read the Bible and everyone should also study the Bible. But this isn't something to only do alone and a Christian should always have someone, ideally a faithful pastor, to go to for advice.
  
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  King_Porgi (king_porgi@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 14:36:04 JST King_Porgi
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  @Crux_Invictus @justnormalkorean well between that and the kids at school talking about how all catholic priests were molesters didn't help either. made every interaction awkward
  
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  @King_Porgi @justnormalkorean Tell me about it, basically any Christian minister (or minister-in-training) gets hit with the accusation now.
  
  And I'm the bad guy if I respond aggressively to the accusation.
  
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  idea_enjoyer (idea_enjoyer@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 14:39:44 JST idea_enjoyer
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  @Omega_Variant @Crux_Invictus @King_Porgi @justnormalkorean Yeah
  
  I have come to a point on these issues where I abandon people very quickly if they want to accommodate these perverts.
  
  I believe they can be saved but not through accommodating them. And if someone wants to accommodate them they're already lost to the spirit of the age as far as I can tell
  
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  Omega Variant (omega_variant@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 14:39:44 JST Omega Variant
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  It's funny that if you look at satanism and all that on the surface it's all "love everyone and do what you want, no judgment here".
  
  Then look at the church at large and it has adopted basically that same stance.
  
  No one is willing to step back and go, hmmm maybe this isn't right :thunk_activated: .
  
  Nah just bury our heads and double down.
  
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  idea_enjoyer (idea_enjoyer@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 14:39:46 JST idea_enjoyer
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  @Crux_Invictus @King_Porgi @justnormalkorean The congregations are at fault too. I've seen churches harbor child molesters and abandon victims. Many people knew and did nothing, or sided with the wrong side.
  
  I don't think we will have to have an inquisition. I don't think God will let any of this stand.
  
  Heard a sermon today where a pastor described a confrontation of sin in the life of a new Christian as "causing one of these little ones to sin," presumably by discouragement, and talking about how how the judgment of millstones applies. Yet he doesn't speak of molestation in those terms.
  
  What do you even say at that point
  
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  Omega Variant (omega_variant@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 14:39:46 JST Omega Variant
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  >"well, my pastor said"
  
  Don't care didn't ask. Is it true, is it right?
  
  >"Well my pastor wouldnt lie
  
  Are you so sure? Perhaps he himself is deceived? Always passing the buck.
  
  Shit the same thing happened here a while back when I was under investigation for saying what I thought about faggots.
  
  Boss man I said what I believe and what the Bible clearly says.
  
  Boss: well you and I agree on most things, you know that. I just been doing a lot of praying lately and feel God just wants us to be loving towards them and show compassion.
  
  You kidding me? He wants me to show compassion to people who will be cast into the lake of fire by He himself?
  
  Ok
  
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  Crux_Invictus (crux_invictus@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 14:39:47 JST Crux_Invictus
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  @idea_enjoyer @King_Porgi @justnormalkorean It happens and unfortunately continues to happen within the Church, I wish there would just be an Inquisition across all denominations to weed it out but I don't think I'll live to see such a thing.
  
  It's frustrating to have thrown in your face by non-Christians who don't also take institutions like public schools to task. It's also frustrating to see churches unable or unwilling to police themselves, do they not know the fear of God?
  
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  idea_enjoyer (idea_enjoyer@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 14:39:48 JST idea_enjoyer
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  @Crux_Invictus @King_Porgi @justnormalkorean I don't think you are the bad guy. I want good pastors
  
  But I've personally seen some shit too.
  
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  Crux_Invictus (crux_invictus@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 14:40:46 JST Crux_Invictus
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  @idea_enjoyer @Omega_Variant @King_Porgi @justnormalkorean I think the stumbling block is that they've internalised the World's accusation of "if you don't love them, then you hate them!", not understanding that the World's "love" is cowardice. The World wants your love to essentially be the abandoning of the sinner to their sin, rather than the proper Christian agape love that says to save the sinner from themselves.
  
  You can call out a homosexual's sin without hating them, though it's hard to do when you've seen the things we've seen. You give them the full counsel of God and if they're truly struggling to break free from their sin you help them. But all of this comes with the proviso of not casting your pearls before swine.
  
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  idea_enjoyer (idea_enjoyer@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 14:41:17 JST idea_enjoyer
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  @Omega_Variant @Crux_Invictus @King_Porgi @justnormalkorean Some of these guys, these accommodating pastors, truly believe they are saved and following the Spirit of God.
  
  We can't both be right man. Either these guys are following evil or I am.
  
  And as far as I can tell, I'm following the historical Christian teaching, so I guess they can do the math
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 14:51:06 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @Omega_Variant @Crux_Invictus @King_Porgi @idea_enjoyer @justnormalkorean God doesn't make garbage, but the fallen world and wickedness work to corrupt the things He created to mock Him. My sins are not less sinful than a homosexual's sin, in the sense that neither of us can saved without Christ. I do not envy those who carry that cross, and I pray for those who earnestly struggle against malformed sexual desires.
  
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  Omega Variant (omega_variant@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 14:51:07 JST Omega Variant
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  For sure. I am still on the fence about faggots being able to be saved. At some point the whole reprobate mind comes to play but I have yet to really decidedly judge what point that is and how to tell.
  
  So I stick with telling them like it is and take it or leave it. I would rather stand before God and explain why I told a faggot he was wrong out of a desire to stop them from hurting themselves and others as well as a righteous indignation for their corruption. Than to explain why I patted them on the head and told them it's fine you are accepted how you are, keep on doing your thing.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 14:58:31 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @idea_enjoyer @Crux_Invictus @King_Porgi @justnormalkorean >a pastor described a confrontation of sin in the life of a new Christian as "causing one of these little ones to sin"
  Maybe as a secondary meaning, since the children were possibly new disciples of Christ themselves. Feels really weird to see someone spin that in any direction other than "don't you dare abuse kids".
  
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  idea_enjoyer (idea_enjoyer@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 14:58:59 JST idea_enjoyer
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  @Crux_Invictus @Omega_Variant @King_Porgi @justnormalkorean Right on.
  
  I have better discussions about religion with people here than offline. Thank God for tech, this is why I'm not a trad
  
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  Omega Variant (omega_variant@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 15:08:36 JST Omega Variant
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  That's the difference, I understand my sin and what I do is sometimes wrong. I accept that, and seek forgiveness and turn from it.
  
  Totally different attitude than to embrace it and expect others to embrace it and continually double down into more and more.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 15:08:36 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @Omega_Variant @Crux_Invictus @King_Porgi @idea_enjoyer @justnormalkorean Absolutely. I do not understand why people capitulate to sexual sins so easily. Perhaps it’s because it’s the one issue that almost everyone has missed the mark on in some way and we internalize our guilt and rationalize acceptance as if it’s Godly. It doesn’t help that we have made platitudes out of The Bible, completely devoid of context or full meanings— judge not lest you be judged, speck in your brother’s eye log in your own, love your neighbor. None of these suggest you embrace or celebrate sin, and actually reading The Bible gives a message that’s completely opposed to what worldly “Christianity” suggests.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 15:18:31 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @Crux_Invictus @idea_enjoyer @King_Porgi @justnormalkorean >It's also frustrating to see churches unable or unwilling to police themselves, do they not know the fear of God?
  Justification of our own faults and acceptance of sins for convenience is not a healthy Christian behavior. If they compromise on that, their moral compass is not pointed towards Christ. Both numbers in this pic should be 0. It is an unacceptable problem that we're higher than 0. Changes need to be made in both institutions for that reason.
  
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