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   Mastodon Migration (mastodonmigration@mastodon.online)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 07:28:22 JST Mastodon Migration

   Spirited debate today on Mastodon about the new opt-in search capability. Some people think it should be opt-out. Whatever you think about this, perhaps let's all just step back and appreciate that a complex requested feature has been added which will fundamentally change the utility of Mastodon for academics, scientists, journalists and organizations as well as ordinary users. Thank you Mastodon devs! We spoke and you listened.

   Support Mastodon development: https://www.patreon.com/mastodon

   #search

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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 07:28:18 JST Alex Gleason

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     • realcaseyrollins ✝️
     @realcaseyrollins @mastodonmigration Absolutely. They already have full text search, it was just a matter of removing the intentional restrictions they placed on it. This is why Gab and Truth Social were able to immediately fix search.
     
     I will say, search is hard. Mastodon requires running a separate ElasticSearch instance to do it. But they already had that working for years.
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     realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 07:28:20 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️

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     • Alex Gleason

     @mastodonmigration This wasn’t a problem of it being hard, it was a problem of the devs overtly and bluntly denying #Mastodon community feedback, while listening to feedback from former #Twitter users who are rejecting #Mastodon due to the lack of this feature.

     Also @alex how hard is functional search to actually integrate? I couldn’t imagine it being that hard, but you’ve done it before, so I’m sure you’d know better than me.

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     Mastodon Migration (mastodonmigration@mastodon.online)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 07:28:21 JST Mastodon Migration

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     @realcaseyrollins Yes, it deserves thanks. Search in a distributed network is a very complex capability requiring a great deal of development and testing effort. People tend to grossly underestimate the difficulty of rolling out new capacities in production software used by millions of people. Whether it could have be implemented sooner is something that can be debated, but the truth is that it is here now, and seems to work very well. It is very deserving of our thanks and support.

     #support

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     realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 07:28:22 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️

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     @mastodonmigration #Mastodon users have been begging for this features for years, and the devs have ignored them consistently. The only reason they are acquiescing now is because former #Twitter users are begging for it. The devs seem to care more about disaffected #Twitter user feedback than the feedback of the very #Mastodon users who have helped build #Mastodon up to what it is today.

     Is this type of behavior deserving of thanks?

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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 07:31:16 JST Alex Gleason

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     • realcaseyrollins ✝️
     @realcaseyrollins @mastodonmigration Gargron enjoyed being a little tyrant until Bluesky and Threads came along. He monopolized the space and they made him fear for his livelihood. That's why Mastodong is being cooperative now.
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     Another Linux Walt Alt (lnxw37b2@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 07:31:35 JST Another Linux Walt Alt

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     • realcaseyrollins ✝️
     @realcaseyrollins @alex @mastodonmigration
     
     > Search in a distributed network is a very complex capability
     
     Are they doing that? It seems to me that if a post reaches your instance's database, it is possible to search it. Remember, search in the Fediverse pre-dates Mastodon's existence.
     
     I'm glad that Mastodon is finally getting search, but I fear that the "opt in" is giving people the false impression that their public posts are not searchable without their permission, when non-Masto software has always had search capability.
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     verita84 (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 07:35:45 JST verita84

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     • realcaseyrollins ✝️
     • Another Linux Walt Alt
     @lnxw37b2 @alex @mastodonmigration @realcaseyrollins
     
     Yeah. What's wrong with just doing a select statement to find what you want?
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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 07:35:52 JST Alex Gleason

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     • realcaseyrollins ✝️
     @realcaseyrollins @mastodonmigration Same thing.
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     realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 07:35:53 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️

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     • Alex Gleason

     @alex @mastodonmigration Ah, I’d figured it was mostly because #Twitter users have been miffed by #Mastodon and moved over to software like #Firefish instead

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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 07:36:17 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • realcaseyrollins ✝️
     Gotta love watching some petty janny archetypal get immediately cockslapped by corpos as soon as they showed up.
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